CT4-V CT4 V blackwing vs RS3 6 months later

[MookdocOE]

Did you read my response? I'm 6'2" and 177, not heavy. Despite being 76, I do better at the gym than the vast majority of guys half my age. Don

I can read but the reality is: It's a massive piece of plastic and Hot-Cold with Fatty Tatty's up in the car? She be creaking like my Mom's wood floors!

 

[Orange Whip]

It's a massive piece of plastic folks! Put a Fat American in there and listen to creak away in spirited driving? Your not getting around it and GM isn't spending extra coin on R&D to ensure the seat back never creaks. But hey Fat Liberal Americans can keep on eating because they now have an injectable drug to skinny them up while eating crap!

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[Grainofsand]

OP - this is further proof of what I have been saying for the last 20+ years: the Germans lost the ability to make truly fun cars. The Americans and Japanese have been making some of the most fun to drive cars, be they Evos or Type Rs or Blackwings or Hellcats or GT350s etc.

I test drove a M4 recently and that car felt more sturdy and sporty than my 4BW. I'm sure on the track, the 4BW is supposedly better. But on the street, the M4 felt more special. The 4BW has this weird wobbly feeling from the front when I turn the wheel that the M4 lacks.

 

[shbox]

Did you read my response? I'm 6'2" and 177, not heavy. Despite being 76, I do better at the gym than the vast majority of guys half my age. Don

(seriously) What was your time for the Murph ?

 

[Champale]

I test drove a M4 recently and that car felt more sturdy and sporty than my 4BW. I'm sure on the track, the 4BW is supposedly better. But on the street, the M4 felt more special. The 4BW has this weird wobbly feeling from the front when I turn the wheel that the M4 lacks.

I haven't driven the G80/822 yet but I have driven the F80 M3. I have also driven a 4BW. There is no comparison in terms of which one made me smile more. I think the number of people on this forum coming from M3s. RS6s, etc is telling.

 

[so 650]

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no, you miss the point - the fat liberal Americans can get ozempic because they believe in health insurance

 

[rubberduck]

no, you miss the point - the fat liberal Americans can get ozempic because they believe in health insurance

No matter what someone believes in, taking drugs is not a good solution for weight management. The old fashion way is best.

 

[Grainofsand]

I haven't driven the G80/822 yet but I have driven the F80 M3. I have also driven a 4BW. There is no comparison in terms of which one made me smile more. I think the number of people on this forum coming from M3s. RS6s, etc is telling.

The one I drove was a G82

 

[DonD]

(seriously) What was your time for the Murph ?

What the Hell is the Murph? Don

 

[savethemanual]

 

[so 650]

No matter what someone believes in, taking drugs is not a good solution for weight management. The old fashion way is best.

Yes! Surgery!

No, actually, I totally agree with you. And I'm lucky/disciplined/well-raised enough to have been thin all my life.

I was just (inadvisedly!) taking the cheap shot that was teed up so nicely there.

Back on topic: appreciate the thoughtful comments about the RS6, and I'd certainly not choose one over a 4BW.

 

[DonD]

A few hours ago, I spoke with the service manager at the local Cadillac dealer. He said there were other customers with the same issue of squeaking seats. Unfortunately, he had no solution. I'm not certain but think he said that only a framework is under the carbon fiber.

There is a significant TX DOT drainage trough where our community exits onto a busy 2 lane road. It was virtually impossible to transit the concrete trough with the big Road Atlanta IMSA splitter. Mine was damaged such that I cut the broken material off. Dealer said the damage I mentioned would be $2000-4000. Don

 

[rubberduck]

A few hours ago, I spoke with the service manager at the local Cadillac dealer. He said there were other customers with the same issue of squeaking seats. Unfortunately, he had no solution. I'm not certain but think he said that only a framework is under the carbon fiber.

There is a significant TX DOT drainage trough where our community exits onto a busy 2 lane road. It was virtually impossible to transit the concrete trough with the big Road Atlanta IMSA splitter. Mine was damaged such that I cut the broken material off. Dealer said the damage I mentioned would be $2000-4000. Don

Not sure how it works where you live, but in Arizona when a road surface issue is reported they have so many days to fix it. If they do not fix it, then a person can claim damages and collect from the city/county/state depending on what agency is responsible for the road.

 

[rubberduck]

I was just (inadvisedly!) taking the cheap shot that was teed up so nicely there.

I know, I was trying to de-escalate the situation.

 

[DonD]

Not sure how it works where you live, but in Arizona when a road surface issue is reported they have so many days to fix it. If they do not fix it, then a person can claim damages and collect from the city/county/state depending on what agency is responsible for the road.

I was on the Board of Directors when all this went down. We tried to get TX DOT to improve the situation. We got nowhere. TX didn't want to upgrade the exit area as there had never been an accident there.

An effort was made to add another westbound lane to allow a safer left hand turn into our community but that would have been very expensive.

Finally TX DOT politely told us the issue was closed and nothing was done. Don

 

[Professor Speed]

@savethemanual thanks for the update on the RS3 vs 4BW! Your comparison from six months ago got me thinking, especially since the RS3 was a strong contender for me. I'm glad to hear that the 4BW came out on top in the six-month comparison. I'm absolutely loving every minute of driving in mine!


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[Grainofsand]

Yes! Surgery!

No, actually, I totally agree with you. And I'm lucky/disciplined/well-raised enough to have been thin all my life.

I was just (inadvisedly!) taking the cheap shot that was teed up so nicely there.

Back on topic: appreciate the thoughtful comments about the RS6, and I'd certainly not choose one over a 4BW.

I'd take the RS6 avant wagon over the 4BW any day of the week. That thing is sick!!