DonD
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Nope, more like gained 4#. Seats are fine. Don
CT4-V CT4 V blackwing vs RS3 6 months later
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jcsperson
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AC2024
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That thing has a monster spec sheet. But also….5,000lbs!!!
minn19
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You think that until you actually drive it and live with it…….then find out it’s actually a fairly boring car to DD.
minn19
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Agree with the sentiment here. Just traded in a G87 M2 for my 5V BW. It is a great car, but very vanilla with a crappy MT. Mushy shifter, plus rev hang, plus CDV equals an extremely frustrating MT experience. If you want a good MT, basically it is Honda/Acura, GM and Porsche (6Mt for Porsche, their 7MT is so so). The S58 is a fantastic motor, but doesn’t have the character like an LT4 does.
The 4V BW is roughly the same weight as a G87 M2, but feels much more lively and lighter. Obviously just my opinion and your own may vary.
The 4V BW is roughly the same weight as a G87 M2, but feels much more lively and lighter. Obviously just my opinion and your own may vary.
speaking from experience? would love to hear more as its a car i'd always thought about buying one day
Roadhawk
2024 CT4 V BW Mid St Met MT
I second the request. I've always admired the RS6 since I first saw earlier iterations in Germany and the UK in the mid 2000's...though I've never actually been in the market for one. Admired doesn't do my lust for the car justice. At the time I owned a pretty tricked out B5 S4 Avant and I saw the car as a wicked big brother to my car. They looked and continue to look amazing with performance to match. All that being said - at the same time - to me - they are a huge beast - more luxo cruiser than actual sports car per se. Still I love (performance) wagons and the RS6 is certainly that.
savethemanual
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Miata too.
minn19
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I always forget about the Miata, but good call. Never driven one, but I’m guessing the Lotus Emira is probably very good to from reviews I’ve read/watched.
savethemanual
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Lotus manuals are very hit/miss in my experience. Have not driven the Emira but the Evora could be anywhere from a great transmission to a downright bad one. From what I have heard from people who I trust the emira manual is still meh.
minn19
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Test drove a couple of used, but current gen RS3s and they are very nice, but I always went a different direction from some reason or another. Didn’t like the zero button interior and my G87 proved why to me. Also the stock Trofeo R tires meant I’d have to immediately buy PS4Ss to replace them as I don’t like DDing on R comp tires. They are far too sticky for my taste and collect/throw rocks like crazy.
I started getting serious about an RS6 once and someone I know and respect from another forum that owns one talked me out of it for a fun car. We have a X5 M60 for family/towing duty, which we need a few times a year. Then a Mach E Rally for DD errands etc. So for my fun car I look for a bit different things than the RS6 offers. Still obviously an awesome car. Part of the problem is its price puts it in competition with sone really cool stuff so it gets kind of lost in that if you know what I mean.
No manual option for either obviously hurts as I do still like a manual.
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5VBW Nick
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I had an RS6 last year for a short time. I did wheels, lowered it with Audi software, removed resonators, and did an upgraded tune that put the power at almost 750 HP. It was crazy fast, and never really spun the tires with Quattro, and it looked pretty sick. However, for some reason it just didn't feel right for me. I was never going to take it skiing and I don't have kids. I had traded my G80 M3 toward it, and I traded the RS6 for my previous Blackwing. After that buying experience didn't go well from Arrowhead Cadillac, I sold it and bought my Evora GT. I was originally going to buy an Emira, but I didn't like the seating position and they were having too many teething issues. The lotus dealer is over 4 hours away from me. The Evora GT has been pretty awesome, the transmission isn't anything to write home about, but it's not terrible. I'm working on trying to sell the Evora since I bought the new Blackwing and I have my 2017 Focus RS I bought a couple months ago.
Overall, the Evora GT gets the most attention anywhere you go, and it sounds really good with the third cat removed.
Overall, the Evora GT gets the most attention anywhere you go, and it sounds really good with the third cat removed.
i miss my evora 400 sometimes.... not often tho. its a lot of money for what it is
yea, 'meh' is how i'd describe the evora manual. its kinda cool part of the linkage is exposed like in a spyker but its not as solid or notchy as you'd think it would be given the car its in
wonk1132
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love hearing the crossover between BW and Lotus owners. I have a 4bw and an Elise myself.
If the Elise came from the factory with fun transmission to interact with, it would have made, I think, a significant improvement in their sales. I don't know if it was possible given the engineering and $ limitations though. I've done a lot of upgrades to mine (including the aftermarket shifter shown below) and it requires constant cable adjustment to shift well.
If the Elise came from the factory with fun transmission to interact with, it would have made, I think, a significant improvement in their sales. I don't know if it was possible given the engineering and $ limitations though. I've done a lot of upgrades to mine (including the aftermarket shifter shown below) and it requires constant cable adjustment to shift well.
That RS6 above looks awesome but I also don't have interest in a non-manual transmission car as I know it will not be as engaging to drive. I like the cayenne turbo GT also but I think it will get boring. If I were to deviate from a manual car, perhaps I would just go electric. I still have an older RS4 manual sedan as it remains an engaging drive at nearly 17 years old. The blackwing is just so good and especially the transmission...it spoils you.
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The real gem of the RS3 is the engine, and the lovely noise it makes. It's insanely quick out of the hole with quattro and AWD. But, at the end of the day, it's a hopped up GolfR. It's a great car, tons of fun, but not nearly as dynamic as the CT4. (I haven't driven a CT5)
As far as rattles...well, it's a GM. Be hopeful, but realistic. And to be clear, they have come leaps and bounds from a 2004 GM model. They feel genuinely quality now, just a few small issues here and there. I can live with that at the price point and the great handling.
As far as rattles...well, it's a GM. Be hopeful, but realistic. And to be clear, they have come leaps and bounds from a 2004 GM model. They feel genuinely quality now, just a few small issues here and there. I can live with that at the price point and the great handling.
oldskoolboarder
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I have a 2009 Miata Sport manual. It's close to perfect for a small, zippy manual. My only complaint as a 5' 6" driver, the clutch engagement feels unnecessarily long. It was longer than my 1968 Barracuda 5 speed Tremec.
Melon
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I had a 2006 NC. Miss that car a lot. Dropping the top on a nice day was great.
oldskoolboarder
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Yeah, unfortunately it developed a knock and I don't want to bother opening it up to realize it needs a new block. Hence, my path to the BW and here I am.
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