CT5-V Manual 25 Blackwing no blindspot monitoring. Why

[dinkman]

Yeah my wife's mercedes has the flashing yellow/red triangles on the mirrors, and a beep. I really wish my BW had at least the beep. But I cannot believe cadillac removed all of it for 2025. That's crazy to me

yea that is crazy. im honestly surprised thats not a federal safety regulation by now and comes standard in toyota corolla's

 

[rubberduck]

Think this is the reason I added a sticky wide mirror on mine. For me, I just hate the idea of getting used to it, then it doesnt work one time and i clip a car.

I had a weird situation a couple weeks ago where it went off at night on a two lane road with no other cars around at all. Stayed on for over a minute. I think mine may be on the verge of crapping out.

 

[flipray]

I had a weird situation a couple weeks ago where it went off at night on a two lane road with no other cars around at all. Stayed on for over a minute. I think mine may be on the verge of crapping out.

My front right corner parking sensor would randomly pick up something from time to time, full pegged like im about to hit something. Nothing there, itll do it when im sitting at a light.

 

[T.O.Blackwing]

... looks like my '24 just got a little bit more valuable...

 

[dinkman]

I had a weird situation a couple weeks ago where it went off at night on a two lane road with no other cars around at all. Stayed on for over a minute. I think mine may be on the verge of crapping out.

you've got a '22 so i'm more surprised 20 other electrical problems havent occurred by now

 

[savethemanual]

That really sucks. A 100k+ car with no blind spot monitoring?

 

[flipray]

you've got a '22 so i'm more surprised 20 other electrical problems havent occurred by now

As funny as you say that, the 22's seems to have the least amount of issues compared to 23s and 24s. Seen more major issues pop up on the newer ones for some reason.

 

[shbox]

I didn't notice this for a long time because I would mostly check the mirror light before putting on a turn signal, but if the light is on and you turn on the turn signal, the BSM light will flash. So, you get to see the turn signal light on the mirror and the BSM light both flash.

 

[CB34]

Wild theory on why blind spot monitoring is nla on the manual. Based on the website there is a new “blind zone steering assist” feature that’s standard on the A10 but n/a on the manual. Perhaps the basic monitoring is tied into the new feature and since M6 doesn’t get it, it loses the basic function as well…

From what I found in the Order Guide, there is a new feature called “Side Bicyclist Alert” - this feature appears to replace “Side Blind Zone Alert” completely which no longer appears as a feature in the order guide. The Side Bicyclist Alert is listed as only being available on the Automatic Transmissions.

I’ve been trying to read up on functionality of it compared to old traditional side blind zone systems to see why they would drop the feature from manuals. The only hypothesis I can come up with is that some of the functionality is dependent on the car being in park (to detect bicyclists before you open your door). Manuals don’t have a park gear.

Still, that seems dumb to me as you could simply track the parking brake. I know not everyone who drives stick necessarily uses the brake all the time which is a major reason why you don’t get remote start. This is a complete head scratcher though - at minimum, they could just disable the bicycles alert feature while keeping the traditional side blind zone alert.

Maybe someone from GM on here could better explain.

 

[doublethebass]

From what I found in the Order Guide, there is a new feature called “Side Bicyclist Alert” - this feature appears to replace “Side Blond Zone Alert” completely which no longer appears as a feature in the order guide. The Side Bicyclist Alert is listed as only being available on the Automatic Transmissions.

I’ve been trying to read up on functionality of it compared to old traditional side blind zone systems to see why they would drop the feature from manuals. The only hypothesis I can come up with is that some of the functionality is dependent on the car being in park (to detect bicyclists before you open your door). Manuals don’t have a park gear.

Still, that seems dumb to me as you could simply track the parking brake. I know not everyone who drives stick necessarily uses the brake all the time which is a major reason why you don’t get remote start. This is a complete head scratcher though - at minimum, they could just disable the bicycles alert feature while keeping the traditional side blind zone alert.

Maybe someone from GM on here could better explain.

Blonde zone alert lol

 

[CB34]

Blonde zone alert lol

Haha - I fixed that within 30 seconds.

Excuse my autocorrect.

 

[Savethemanuals]

From what I found in the Order Guide, there is a new feature called “Side Bicyclist Alert” - this feature appears to replace “Side Blind Zone Alert” completely which no longer appears as a feature in the order guide. The Side Bicyclist Alert is listed as only being available on the Automatic Transmissions.

I’ve been trying to read up on functionality of it compared to old traditional side blind zone systems to see why they would drop the feature from manuals. The only hypothesis I can come up with is that some of the functionality is dependent on the car being in park (to detect bicyclists before you open your door). Manuals don’t have a park gear.

Still, that seems dumb to me as you could simply track the parking brake. I know not everyone who drives stick necessarily uses the brake all the time which is a major reason why you don’t get remote start. This is a complete head scratcher though - at minimum, they could just disable the bicycles alert feature while keeping the traditional side blind zone alert.

Maybe someone from GM on here could better explain.

Makes sense. Unfortunate it’s no longer available but it won’t make me cancel my order. If it’s a big deal to someone, purchase a pre-facelift.

 

[Exia]

Thats very odd its been deleted from '25 manuals.

I'm assuming its because they have somehow integrated it into the super cruise which is standard on automatics and they didn't bother to make two different sensors.

Honestly, shame on GM for this. They are keeping the manual alive but are now removing shit that was standard on the pre refresh and the refresh doesn't really add much.

I love how none of these feature removals are ever articulated to us. People find out after buying the car that its missing shit that should be a standard feature. For a 100k car thats inexcusable, even if it has a manual paired to a V8 in 2025. GM phoned this one in.

More reason to look at a 22-24.

 

[T.O.Blackwing]

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Honestly, shame on GM for this. They are keeping the manual alive but are now removing shit that was standard on the pre refresh and the refresh doesn't really add much.

I love how none of these feature removals are ever articulated to us. People find out after buying the car that its missing shit that should be a standard feature. For a 100k car thats inexcusable, even if it has a manual paired to a V8 in 2025. GM phoned this one in.

More reason to look at a 22-24.

Like I said:

... looks like my '24 just got a little bit more valuable...

About a decade from now some Doug DeMuro-type YouTuber (or 2030s equivalent) will be saying something like: “Of course, you’ll want to get the manual, and when you do, here’s a few reasons why the 22 to 24s seem to be the ones people prefer… “

 

[CB34]

I think I found the new RPO code -

Why it's only included on Auto's...I don't know. It could be tied to Super Cruise as a previous poster stated and they did not want to develop separate modules to work without the standard super cruise hardware since this is literally the only manual car in GM's entire lineup.

 

[coffee_time]

I think I found the new RPO code -

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Why it's only included on Auto's...I don't know. It could be tied to Super Cruise as a previous poster stated and they did not want to develop separate modules to work without the standard super cruise hardware since this is literally the only manual car in GM's entire lineup.

That is incredibly disappointing.

 

[Todd]

I think I found the new RPO code -

View attachment 29026

Why it's only included on Auto's...I don't know. It could be tied to Super Cruise as a previous poster stated and they did not want to develop separate modules to work without the standard super cruise hardware since this is literally the only manual car in GM's entire lineup.

Not sure steering assist is the same thing as just the monitoring?

"Steering assist" suggests that the car will intervene automatically and steer back into your lane if it senses a car in the blind spot, like automatic braking when it senses a collision.

Are we 100% sure there isn't a buried menu setting to turn on monitoring? Online searching suggests it was controlled that way in the 22-24 models, and maybe users are having trouble finding it on the 25s because of the new UI?

 

[CB34]

Not sure steering assist is the same thing as just the monitoring?

"Steering assist" suggests that the car will intervene automatically and steer back into your lane if it senses a car in the blind spot, like automatic braking when it senses a collision.

Are we 100% sure there isn't a buried menu setting to turn on monitoring? Online searching suggests it was controlled that way in the 22-24 models, and maybe users are having trouble finding it on the 25s because of the new UI?

They've essentially replaced "Blind Zone Monitoring" with "Blind Zone Steering Assist" as an "enhanced feature" - ie. Blind Zone Steering Assist includes BOTH monitoring and assistance, either of which I'm sure can be disabled if you don't want to use it.

I'm guessing the physical hardware to make this work is directly tied to super cruise since super cruise can conduct its own lane changes and super cruise is effectively standard on all CT5's going out the door EXCEPT the manuals. Since the CT5 is literally the only car in their portfolio that has the new post-CUE/Google technology stack AND a manual, some bean counter made the decision to just remove the feature completely and not spend engineering time developing a standalone blind-zone alert feature that the MY2022-24's had to be compatible with the new Google infotainment system.

 

[jbawden]

Clearly GM recognizes those that choose a manual are better and more engaged drivers

 

[Finally-a-V]

Seems like you give up a lot with this great super cruise feature. You lose blind side monitoring which is ridiculous. So a brand new $100K 2025 car doesn't have it, but a $30K Kia does? And almost every car sold today. Sad. You also lose the "performance" steering wheel. You still get a V Mode button, but you lose the PTM switch.

More reasons to never get rid of mine.....or buy a 2022-2024 leftover or preowned (without super cruise). Stupid GM, not that they're listening.