Order bank open date 2025 CT5V BW?

[shbox]

Everyone late to the goat rodeo needs to know that any time estimations are meaningless and patience is your best friend.

Eventually, you will be here:

 

[Todd]

So I’m probably looking at 8-10 weeks realistically before the car hits the dealer lot?

Order picked up Dec 11, 2024.
Built week of Jan 13, 2025.
On hold indefinitely after build for unknown reason.
Scheduled for delivery week 2 of Feb, 2025
Bumped to last week of Feb, 2025
Bumped again to second week of March, 2025.

Over 10 weeks and counting.

 

[Cjd1987]

My production week is 3/31.

 

[jimijuma]

My 5BW was deemed built on Jan 10th.

Has been sitting at the GM site in Lansing Michigan.........and its been crickets. No clue when the dealer will take delivery.

 

[DZnutz]

Whats happening with these cars is simply insanity. Theyre literally saying this our business, we make the best cars and yet have no clue how to build anything or communicate properly

 

[leres]

My bet is that the transport delays over recent months are due to the transport company going belly up.

Jack Cooper Transport going out of business after almost 100 years

 

[jimijuma]

My bet is that the transport delays over recent months are due to the transport company going belly up.

Jack Cooper Transport going out of business after almost 100 years

I have heard that GM may have changed transport companies. That is probably the hold up. Great, I wonder how big the backlog is......

 

[leres]

Maybe they're moving to in-house transport?

GM Buying Its Own Transport Trucks To Deliver Vehicles To Dealers

 

[CB34]

My bet is that the transport delays over recent months are due to the transport company going belly up.

Jack Cooper Transport going out of business after almost 100 years

These cars are getting enclosed trailers from a separate company.

 

[Finally-a-V]

Whats happening with these cars is simply insanity

The more things change, the more they stay the same............this is why it's been called the goat rodeo.

 

[chrishuy]

I'm preparing a full write up to post in its own thread - but speaking of Goat Rodeos - my 2025 CT5 Blackwing with 607 miles on it ejected a metal plug in the oil pan the first time I crossed 5k rpm and emptied the engine of all its oil at 70+ mph. The car has been sitting at the local dealer awaiting a new oil pan since Feb 6th 2025 with an estimated part ETA of late March/early April. Initially, the dealer presented me with a verbal warranty denial and proposed bill for $7k because in their word "you did not follow the proper break in procedure to 1500 miles by keeping it under 4k rpm until the break-in period is completed". After I strongly pushed back at this rationale the senior service tech compared my failed oil pan against another LT4 and documented the 'oil cup' plug in the front of the pan did not appear to be completely pushed into the oil pan and caused the failure. May or may not be why deliveries have slowed lately.

My Cadillac provided 2024 Honda Accord courtesy car has been solid for at least 600 miles though - although its a bit slower. Opening a Cadillac corp escalation case today as I'm very disappointed with how this is being handled at all levels of the company.

 

[5VBW Nick]

Holy shit that's bad luck

 

[GoldfishTX]

I'm preparing a full write up to post in its own thread - but speaking of Goat Rodeos - my 2025 CT5 Blackwing with 607 miles on it ejected a metal plug in the oil pan the first time I crossed 5k rpm and emptied the engine of all its oil at 70+ mph. The car has been sitting at the local dealer awaiting a new oil pan since Feb 6th 2025 with an estimated part ETA of late March/early April. Initially, the dealer presented me with a verbal warranty denial and proposed bill for $7k because in their word "you did not follow the proper break in procedure to 1500 miles by keeping it under 4k rpm until the break-in period is completed". After I strongly pushed back at this rationale the senior service tech compared my failed oil pan against another LT4 and documented the 'oil cup' plug in the front of the pan did not appear to be completely pushed into the oil pan and caused the failure. May or may not be why deliveries have slowed lately.

My Cadillac provided 2024 Honda Accord courtesy car has been solid for at least 600 miles though - although its a bit slower. Opening a Cadillac corp escalation case today as I'm very disappointed with how this is being handled at all levels of the company.

I would love to see their engineering explanation for why a seal plug needs any break in period at all.

 

[668LT4]

I'm preparing a full write up to post in its own thread - but speaking of Goat Rodeos - my 2025 CT5 Blackwing with 607 miles on it ejected a metal plug in the oil pan the first time I crossed 5k rpm and emptied the engine of all its oil at 70+ mph. The car has been sitting at the local dealer awaiting a new oil pan since Feb 6th 2025 with an estimated part ETA of late March/early April. Initially, the dealer presented me with a verbal warranty denial and proposed bill for $7k because in their word "you did not follow the proper break in procedure to 1500 miles by keeping it under 4k rpm until the break-in period is completed". After I strongly pushed back at this rationale the senior service tech compared my failed oil pan against another LT4 and documented the 'oil cup' plug in the front of the pan did not appear to be completely pushed into the oil pan and caused the failure. May or may not be why deliveries have slowed lately.

My Cadillac provided 2024 Honda Accord courtesy car has been solid for at least 600 miles though - although its a bit slower. Opening a Cadillac corp escalation case today as I'm very disappointed with how this is being handled at all levels of the company.

For the million + problems we have in this world, included for me is giving these careless, lazy auto workers raises. These people can't snap together pieces of plastic. I don't care about inflation and cost of living. Raises should be merit based. But these people got them, and yet quality gets worse and worse. Shawn Fain cries about the billionaires, I will wager most of them did not get to where they are being complacent at their jobs. Before one of you replies defending how great auto workers are, yes, maybe there are some good ones. But the delivery quality of an average American vehicle sucks. The person who installed your plug should be fired. Plain and simple.

 

[ngoni]

For the million + problems we have in this world, included for me is giving these careless, lazy auto workers raises. These people can't snap together pieces of plastic. I don't care about inflation and cost of living. Raises should be merit based. But these people got them, and yet quality gets worse and worse. Shawn Fain cries about the billionaires, I will wager most of them did not get to where they are being complacent at their jobs. Before one of you replies defending how great auto workers are, yes, maybe there are some good ones. But the delivery quality of an average American vehicle sucks. The person who installed your plug should be fired. Plain and simple.

There's so many likely scenarios where this could have caused significant damage and loss of life if it happened on a busy Interstate in anything but a perfectly flat and straight section of the road.

 

[Deneed4spd]

I was just reading up on a civic type r break in. 600 miles and let it soar. Funny how they try to pin it on you for the 1500 miles period. Heard 1500 miles is more for diff than engine.

 

[565565]

I'm preparing a full write up to post in its own thread - but speaking of Goat Rodeos - my 2025 CT5 Blackwing with 607 miles on it ejected a metal plug in the oil pan the first time I crossed 5k rpm and emptied the engine of all its oil at 70+ mph. The car has been sitting at the local dealer awaiting a new oil pan since Feb 6th 2025 with an estimated part ETA of late March/early April. Initially, the dealer presented me with a verbal warranty denial and proposed bill for $7k because in their word "you did not follow the proper break in procedure to 1500 miles by keeping it under 4k rpm until the break-in period is completed". After I strongly pushed back at this rationale the senior service tech compared my failed oil pan against another LT4 and documented the 'oil cup' plug in the front of the pan did not appear to be completely pushed into the oil pan and caused the failure. May or may not be why deliveries have slowed lately.

My Cadillac provided 2024 Honda Accord courtesy car has been solid for at least 600 miles though - although its a bit slower. Opening a Cadillac corp escalation case today as I'm very disappointed with how this is being handled at all levels of the company.

How did they know you were over 5k RPMs? I thought GM didn't track RPMS like some other makes.

 

[DZnutz]

Thats seriously your question? He obviously told them what he was doing when the failure occurred. Which is exactly what any reasonable person would do

 

[chrishuy]

There's so many likely scenarios where this could have caused significant damage and loss of life if it happened on a busy Interstate in anything but a perfectly flat and straight section of the road.

It was actually on a 2 lane curvy back road at night and I was lucky nobody was immediately behind me. The rear tires were completely coated in oil when I was able to find a driveway to coast into. Fwiw, if you ever have to turn the motor off while driving you have to hold the stop/start button for a few seconds to confirm you want to shut the motor off while moving. For all the bad luck from this incident - I was also very lucky it didn't go much worse. I was supposed to be going on a car rally the prior weekend where I would have been in close proximity to other high performance vehicles - luckily I didn't end up going for other reasons and then this happened Monday evening.

 

[chrishuy]

How did they know you were over 5k RPMs? I thought GM didn't track RPMS like some other makes.

It's pretty well known the data logging on modern cars is extensive and I had no reason to tell anything but the 100% truth since at the time it definitely appeared to be a failure in the oiling system (I initially guessed an oil line burst while investigating during my 2 hour wait for the flatbed to arrive). The drain plug and oil filter were dry but the front of the engine bay had pooled oil within the front plastic under body tray. The dealership found the metal plug sitting on top of the lower plastic tray when they removed it to start investigating it at the dealership (from what I was told by the Service Advisor).