5VBW Nick
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Smart grapesWow, talk about sour grapes...
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Smart grapesWow, talk about sour grapes...
Smart, like talking with authority about something you have neither seen nor experienced?Smart grapes
Have owned high performance cars with better handling than 5V and they had cup2R tires, so yeah, I do have experience in these matters. If you need to shave 2 seconds off your track time, then by all means pony up. If you are cruising the streets and hitting some back roads, then you just need it for bragging rights and terrible grip in cold/wet weather.Smart, like talking with authority about something you have neither seen nor experienced?
Sure, okay.
+1. For someone only running on the public roads, it’s just bragging rights. Nothing wrong with that I suppose. If someone wants it and has the extra $$, go for it. I have CCBs by circumstance, but glad I have them just for no brake dust and they look badass. There may be a small improvement in handling and better strip time, but I probably won’t notice.Have owned high performance cars with better handling than 5V and they had cup2R tires, so yeah, I do have experience in these matters. If you need to shave 2 seconds off your track time, then by all means pony up. If you are cruising the streets and hitting some back roads, then you just need it for bragging rights and terrible grip in cold/wet weather.
+1 on this. Have CCB because the car i wanted happened to have them, and the lack of brake dust is a huge bonus, along with significant unsprung weight savings+1. For someone only running on the public roads, it’s just bragging rights. Nothing wrong with that I suppose. If someone wants it and has the extra $$, go for it. I have CCBs by circumstance, but glad I have them just for no brake dust and they look badass. There may be a small improvement in handling and better strip time, but I probably won’t notice.
True, but there’s a distinction between a sloppy package and getting your package sloppy.Some folks like it sloppy… <this guy>
True, but there’s a distinction between a sloppy package and getting your package sloppy.
Back to the car. It seems the PP lives up to its name being a precise and targeted attack by GM on the customer’s wallet.
I can speak to the CCBs on a daily from personal experience. 27k dd miles in Michigan and I would never say “avoid CCBs for daily use”. At times they take a second to warm up and bite but honestly it’s not something i have to actively think about. That being said if they get wet while sitting still (like at a touchless car wash) they are absolutely useless, like zero bite until you get some heat in them. I leave the touchless wash carefully and do a couple hard brakes and they come back to life. As far as the precision package goes I haven’t driven one but several friends at GM have and I was told not to drive one unless I’m ready to open my wallet. Reason for that being all of my complaints about the 5BW on track are basically how it’s not a 1LE (did 34 track days on my 17 SS 1LE and was so comfortable with it). In simple terms my engineer buddy said the precision package makes the BW behave “more like a 1LE”. Everyone who has driven it also raves about how it totally suited it is for daily use (couple of the guys owned ZL1 1LEs and had that rough ride engrained as what a track pack is from GM on an alpha car).Has anyone driven or ridden in a BW with the new Precision Pack option? Even a test mule, i.e. someone with a friend at GM, etc. would be good.
I am wondering if I should get this with my 2025 order. It basically makes the 5-BW a track car. My question is, what would it be like as a daily driver? Would it be way too stiff?
Here's a short video on it here: CT5-V BW w/Precision Pack
Another question would be the carbon-ceramic brakes... I've heard they're not good cold and could cause issues on a DD because of this. Anyone?
My guess is that it would be the same as or similar to a Camaro 1LE, but I don't know anyone who has a 1LE either.
Any input appreciated.
Thank you. This is exactly what I was looking for, and confirms that my decision to order the PP was the correct one.I can speak to the CCBs on a daily from personal experience. 27k dd miles in Michigan and I would never say “avoid CCBs for daily use”. At times they take a second to warm up and bite but honestly it’s not something i have to actively think about. That being said if they get wet while sitting still (like at a touchless car wash) they are absolutely useless, like zero bite until you get some heat in them. I leave the touchless wash carefully and do a couple hard brakes and they come back to life. As far as the precision package goes I haven’t driven one but several friends at GM have and I was told not to drive one unless I’m ready to open my wallet. Reason for that being all of my complaints about the 5BW on track are basically how it’s not a 1LE (did 34 track days on my 17 SS 1LE and was so comfortable with it). In simple terms my engineer buddy said the precision package makes the BW behave “more like a 1LE”. Everyone who has driven it also raves about how it totally suited it is for daily use (couple of the guys owned ZL1 1LEs and had that rough ride engrained as what a track pack is from GM on an alpha car).
My first 250 car had an MSRP of $116 with basically every option but sunroof. For an extra $9k on top of that I’d have gotten a precision pack without thinking twice. At $150k as a result of the continuous price increases that’s a bit too much for me to swallow at this point, but wish I was getting one in green lol. Seems like a no brainer if you have the money and intend to track the car.