Track rats rejoice!

[MatthewAMEL]

All the positive press reviews I’ve seen of cars with the PP have also had the Cup2R tires. Those tires alone will dramatically positively transform the handling of any car… in optimum conditions.

And there lies the rub for me. There’s no way I can justify running 2R tires on the street, I’d seriously limit deciding to drive the car only in completely dry and warm conditions. This is supposed to be an awesome daily driver, not some Sunday Driver Supercar.

And if I’m not running 2Rs, I’m not paying a $9k up charge for the rest of the components which on their own cannot be worth the price (I’m sold on the CCBs for the dust elimination).

Dustin told me when he swaps the tires to get the order accepted, a credit is issued for the Cup2R. Not sure the exact amount. While the correct size for the Cup2R is listed on Michelin's website, it's the Porsche spec. I would assume the next manufacturing run would have the TPC version.

 

[T.O.Blackwing]

Interestingly, the Canadian build config shows the price for the Precision Package. It is CAD20,700.

I’m not seeing 2025 Blackwings on the Cadillac.ca site yet.
Maybe I’m linking with a cached version?
Please send the link you’re using as I’m curious to see how much more my car would have cost as a ‘25.

 

[nordique14]

I’m not seeing 2025 Blackwings on the Cadillac.ca site yet.
Maybe I’m linking with a cached version?
Please send the link you’re using as I’m curious to see how much more my car would have cost as a ‘25.

2025 models are not yet showing on the site. However, a direct link works. I posted it here:

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Post in thread '2025 CT5 & CT5-V Blackwing Order Support Guide'

Dec 12, 2024

For the Canadians, the 2025 CT5-V configurator is up. It is not showing on the website (still only has 2024), but the direct link works.

2025 CT5-V Configurator Canada

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[Todd]

Dustin told me when he swaps the tires to get the order accepted, a credit is issued for the Cup2R. Not sure the exact amount. While the correct size for the Cup2R is listed on Michelin's website, it's the Porsche spec. I would assume the next manufacturing run would have the TPC version.

So maybe you get a $7-800 credit opting for the 4S vs 2R, that leaves about $8k that you’re paying for some software and control arm tweaks that won’t perform nearly as well as when running anything other than 2R tires.

The 2R tires are the key ingredient to the handling portion of the V8V package.

If you’re not willing to run such extreme warm temps, dry weather, fast wearing tires all the time on the street, and aren’t a track junkie (using a 4k lbs sedan?), then I don’t see the value in this package.

 

[MatthewAMEL]

So maybe you get a $7-800 credit opting for the 4S vs 2R, that leaves about $8k that you’re paying for some software and control arm tweaks that won’t perform nearly as well as when running anything other than 2R tires.

The 2R tires are the key ingredient to the handling portion of the V8V package.

If you’re not willing to run such extreme warm temps, dry weather, fast wearing tires all the time on the street, and aren’t a track junkie (using a 4k lbs sedan?), then I don’t see the value in this package.

While I am sure the Cup2R is a decent tire, it's hardly the key ingredient. There are a LOT of better track tires out there that would work as well or better: Supercar 3R, Sport Maxx Race, P Zero Corsa or Trofeo, Hoosier A7/R7...etc.

The point is the suspension and calibration are now up to the task of handling a really sticky tire. If you aren't tracking, then this isn't the option for you. Personally, I love the idea of the lunatics at Cadillac making my 4k lb sedan an even more capable track car.

 

[leres]

I just ran across service bulletin 24-NA-267, which applies to RPO Q2Y (Cup 2 R) tires:

The purpose of this bulletin is to inform dealership personnel that the Michelin Pilot Sport
Cup 2 R tires that are originally equipped on the Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing require
unique maintenance that must be followed.
Important: See Owner Manual for additional information.

Warning: Failure to follow these requirements may lead to tire failure and loss of
vehicle control and may increase risk of injury, death, or property damage.

Replace only as a set. Replace all four tires if any of the tires exhibits damage or if the
wear indicators on any tire can be seen in three or more places on the tire. All tires must
be replaced at the same time and in complete sets regardless of tread life remaining on
the tires. These tires must not be replaced individually or in pairs. The rear tires will likely
wear faster than the front tires.

 

[nordique14]

TSB is not going to be very useful. First, how many enthusiast who run R comp tires would go to the dealership to get new tires? Second, what are the odds a dealership would have a set of R comps in stock to sell? I think the answer is zero.