Except in my old S4 - lol. I miss that car so much....particularly in the snow. I always had supreme confidence in snow/wet and it never let me down.
I get it...but mine was never stock (huge difference)...many handling mods as well as Stage 3 power. Certainly not as nimble as the EVO but I could do (and did) amazing things with that car. It may not ever have had the driver involvement but I'm sure I could match any pace. I ran down Killboy on the dragon once in the wet when he had his STI....(I have that on video somewhere...man was he shocked...lol)
It certainly was....and practical. I love wagons!
That's the best gen S4 IMO (B5)....I had it's big sister C5 A6 6 speed manual EPL stage 3 with water/meth injection 427 whp. Thing was a blast and totally stealth and caught a lot of cars by surprise. It was lowered on coilovers and had Stoptech calipers and rotors.....still miss it.
So true. The Evo was an exceptional machine and could beat any BMW E36 M3 or S4.
yea i really wanted to love the GR but I'm replacing a v8 TT audi luxury car daily driver and I just could go from that to the interior of the corolla. it was so bad when i sat in it.Nice list! My recent analysis was much easier. I'd scratch off half the cars because they don't have manual transmissions. I'd scratch off any BMWs because of the rubbery transmissions, perceived low quality (I owned one, stuff just broke--little stuff and big stuff, all the time--yes, just one sample but still), and I don't like the interior design or the exterior looks anymore (they had both dialed in 10 years ago or so). I'd scratch off the VWs because of excessive reliance on bad touchscreens and rubbery shifters.
3rd place would have been the 4BW ... but I already have a 5BW so it's too similar.
Integra Type S is fantastic, but it's too refined for what I want. At this point I'm only buying impractical cars.
Ended up buying a GR Corolla just before 2023 ended, when a local dealer was motivated to sell. I'm in love with the way it drives. But the interior is awful, and the programming in the car is also awful. Toyota spent all their time and money on the drivetrain, everything else in that car is an afterthought. And yet it's exactly what I wanted.
i dont know if you're helping me feel better about the 4bw or convincing me to go the other way hahadinkman - you will LOVE your 4BW I promise. I recently test drove a 4BW 6sp shortly after taking delivery of my 5BW 6sp and was blown away by the driving sharpness of the 4 vs the 5 and posted my thoughts in another thread.
CT4-V Blackwing...kind of slow
Anybody else feel like these cars are kind of slow? On youtube it gets smoked by everything comparable to it (Camaro SS, BMW M-cars and even the M340i). When I give it gas on the streets it feels heavy and I can't really feel the power. I feel like there needs to be some sort of factory revision...www.cadillacvnet.com
I will add that I am loving my 5 more and more as I get some miles under my belt. It's such an animal! But the 4BW is simply incredible to drive - it's hard to believe it's a 3800lb sedan when you drive it because it drives like a much smaller, lighter car. And I say this as someone who owns a Lotus Evora 400 and has owned all manner of light-ish rally style cars (WRX, 3 Mitsubishi Evos, Focus RS, Civic Type R).
i hear you but a lot of the same was said of the shelby cobra or f type r as high hp v8's but i never thought that owning them. both were enjoyable on the street. you didnt have to go 100mph+ for that
i hear you and agree but with older age i've lost spontaneity and resorted to spreadsheet analysis paralysis haha
Yeah forgot about the supercharged one ...I almost bought one back in 2012 but ended up with a V2. I really liked the early aughts Audis though ....had that C5 A6 and a C5 RS6.
