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I greatly appreciate the CT5 BW but it is priced appropriately. The strongest argument for the CT4 BW is that it's significantly underpriced to me.
 
I greatly appreciate the CT5 BW but it is priced appropriately. The strongest argument for the CT4 BW is that it's significantly underpriced to me.
Absolutely. As a 5 owner, who owned a 4, it is easy to say the 4 is a much better value. The 5 offers the such a different driving character, but it adds quite a premium to get it.
 
Absolutely. As a 5 owner, who owned a 4, it is easy to say the 4 is a much better value. The 5 offers the such a different driving character, but it adds quite a premium to get it.
They seem to be 2 takes on the same basic idea - fast, maneuverable, driver orientated sedans where the 5 is just beastly and the 4 a bit more nimble. I get that the 5 takes it to another level - but in most senses they are versions of a theme and I for one appreciate the smaller, somewhat lighter footprint of the 4 - to the point where I'm OK not having that V8 monster....the 4 is quite good enough for me.
 
I would have been open to the CT4 if the backseats had more room.

The major reason I wanted a 4 door sedan is because I need to put things in the back, namely one, now two, rear facing car seats.

That is why my first choice was the 5 blackwing with the M3 as backup.

I feel like the the CT4 blackwing is a good sedan if you don't really need to use it as a sedan very often.

If GM made it just a bit roomier and tuned the LF4 for more power, sales would pick up. GM previously supplied a ATS-V auto to the car magazines that trapped 123mph in the 1/4 mile. That tune would have been perfect.

The M3/M4 outsells the M5 nearly 10 to 1. The CT4 blackwing should be positioned to outsell the CT5 blackwing by a good margin but it doesn't.
 
Only use the rear seats on occasion so its a good tradeoff for us (that the car isn't overly huge)
 
I would have been open to the CT4 if the backseats had more room.

The major reason I wanted a 4 door sedan is because I need to put things in the back, namely one, now two, rear facing car seats.

That is why my first choice was the 5 blackwing with the M3 as backup.

I feel like the the CT4 blackwing is a good sedan if you don't really need to use it as a sedan very often.

If GM made it just a bit roomier and tuned the LF4 for more power, sales would pick up. GM previously supplied a ATS-V auto to the car magazines that trapped 123mph in the 1/4 mile. That tune would have been perfect.

The M3/M4 outsells the M5 nearly 10 to 1. The CT4 blackwing should be positioned to outsell the CT5 blackwing by a good margin but it doesn't.
As far as I can tell, GM isn't marketing the CT4 at all let alone the most expensive CT4. It seems they spend their entire marketing budget putting on track days for YouTubers. I haven't found a single TV commercial or web ad. I had to really dig just to find someone who had reposted the professional B-roll footage GM produced at a track.

The CT4 is the worst selling sedan in the US and I think that's GM's goal sadly.
 
I sort of look at my 4BW as a coupe with two extra doors, and a bit of space for a pet carrier with litter box, guitars, an amp or two, clothes and a computer that I can load up and drive to my house in Mn, in the summer. I suppose one could fit toddlers or young kids in the back, I don’t have either.
 
I really enjoyed this Jay Leno's Garage with Jason Cammisa and his 325 touring and just great car talk...

 
Apologies if already posted: Car and Driver Top Dog Sedan article.

 
Apologies if already posted: Car and Driver Top Dog Sedan article.

Damn can't open it. Who wins?
 
And the Winner Is...


If you told us you just bought the Alfa, we’d proffer a lusty congrats, especially since the Quadrifoglio is discontinued for 2025. If you told us you’re shopping the BMW, we’d say right on—the M3 is royalty. But this is a case where drag-strip numbers don’t tell the whole story, and the CT4-V Blackwing is simply the best at executing a sports sedan’s often conflicting missions. It’s precise and emotional on a track, involving and livable on the street, and, on top of that, the least expensive. After five states, 800 miles, and one NASCAR track, we’re confident in affirming the CT4-V Blackwing’s status. We’d love to own all three of these cars, but we want a Blackwing the most.
 

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