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That's the early frontrunner for sure!I'd set the gauge cluster to "Fox Body" and never change it.
Looking forward for a complete review!
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That's the early frontrunner for sure!I'd set the gauge cluster to "Fox Body" and never change it.
Looking forward for a complete review!
I have loved Mustangs since I was a kid. Now I feel way too old for them. I bought my kids a Civic Si and I feel silly driving that as well. We do have a dealer right down the road that sells 800HP Mustangs for $50K though. Lebanon Ford
Agreed...but its definitely old guys with Vettes - LOL...at least from what I saw at Spring Mountain last spring...I think the demographic is pretty dispersed on mustangs given the different options and price points, so you could pull it off w/o judgement!
Granger Ford?I have loved Mustangs since I was a kid. Now I feel way too old for them. I bought my kids a Civic Si and I feel silly driving that as well. We do have a dealer right down the road that sells 800HP Mustangs for $50K though. Lebanon Ford
problem is Ford doesnt put the coyote in a sedan and some of us just dont want coupes. i dont think they even make any sedans any moreWith all the talk here about Mustangs and Blackwings, maybe I should chime in as I owned a 2020 Bullitt before I bought my first CT5 V Blackwing.
Here’s my (very subjective) input based on my experience:
Clear Advantage Blackwing:
- handling
- steering
- power (the Bullitt was no slouch but the Caddy has just gobs and gobs of torque and supercharged power at almost any engine speed)
- clutch (the engagement point in the Bullitt always felt weird - too high or something)
- transmission (the Bullitt’s Getrag, which was also in the GT but not the Shelby and the Mach 1, is but a peasant compared to the Caddy’s noble Tremec)
- outward visibility (but is that just the electronic mirror?)
- general utility (Mustang trunk was bigger though)
- comfort (Bullitt wasn’t awful by any means, and certainly not for the price, but no competition for a $100k luxury sports sedan)
- electronics (electronic mirror, wireless CarPlay & charging, surround vision recording, etc. all unavailable in the Bullitt)
Slight Advantage Blackwing
- ride (my Bullitt had magnaride, too, so its ride was almost as good)
- overall interior quality (the Caddy is good but should be better for the price while overall my Bullitt was fine, too much cheap plastic in both, though more in the Mustang)
Slight Advantage Bullitt
- engine sound (the LT4 sounds great but edge here to the Coyote)
- engine intangibles (while the LT4 is great the Coyote is somehow slightly more fun to run through the gears - maybe that’s just the sound, though?)
- fuel economy (then again, who cares…)
- sound system (more oomph in the Bullitt, though neither car’s stock stereo is spectacular)
Clear Advantage Bullitt
- exterior styling (while the CT5 looks good, the S550 is truly a looker - I think it’s just too common for car enthusiasts like us to notice how great it looks anymore)
- interior design (miss that cue ball shifter, those aeronautic-style switches, and the twin cowl dash, even though it may have all been somewhat cheaply executed)
- trunk (noticeably larger, as already mentioned)
- instrumentation (the Bullitt package, like the GT’s, added a couple of extra analog gauges; I also preferred the design of its configurable electronic gauges over those in the Caddy)
- interior lighting (why couldn’t the CT5 include some colour configurability like you get in a Mustang?)
- charisma (compliments from pedestrians and motorists pretty much every time I drove it, though enthusiasts do notice and compliment the Caddy - even a Tesla guy, once)
- my wife liked it better
As I’m already on my second Blackwing after having only owned that one Mustang, you can surmise that I have a preference.
Reflected above, too, I suppose.
Nevertheless, I do feel more than a little nostalgic for my Mustang every now and then and I think for good reasons.
With all the talk here about Mustangs and Blackwings, maybe I should chime in as I owned a 2020 Bullitt before I bought my first CT5 V Blackwing.
Here’s my (very subjective) input based on my experience:
Clear Advantage Blackwing:
- handling
- steering
- power (the Bullitt was no slouch but the Caddy has just gobs and gobs of torque and supercharged power at almost any engine speed)
- clutch (the engagement point in the Bullitt always felt weird - too high or something)
- transmission (the Bullitt’s Getrag, which was also in the GT but not the Shelby and the Mach 1, is but a peasant compared to the Caddy’s noble Tremec)
- outward visibility (but is that just the electronic mirror?)
- general utility (Mustang trunk was bigger though)
- comfort (Bullitt wasn’t awful by any means, and certainly not for the price, but no competition for a $100k luxury sports sedan)
- electronics (electronic mirror, wireless CarPlay & charging, surround vision recording, etc. all unavailable in the Bullitt)
Slight Advantage Blackwing
- ride (my Bullitt had magnaride, too, so its ride was almost as good)
- overall interior quality (the Caddy is good but should be better for the price while overall my Bullitt was fine, too much cheap plastic in both, though more in the Mustang)
Slight Advantage Bullitt
- engine sound (the LT4 sounds great but edge here to the Coyote)
- engine intangibles (while the LT4 is great the Coyote is somehow slightly more fun to run through the gears - maybe that’s just the sound, though?)
- fuel economy (then again, who cares…)
- sound system (more oomph in the Bullitt, though neither car’s stock stereo is spectacular)
Clear Advantage Bullitt
- exterior styling (while the CT5 looks good, the S550 is truly a looker - I think it’s just too common for car enthusiasts like us to notice how great it looks anymore)
- interior design (miss that cue ball shifter, those aeronautic-style switches, and the twin cowl dash, even though it may have all been somewhat cheaply executed)
- trunk (noticeably larger, as already mentioned)
- instrumentation (the Bullitt package, like the GT’s, added a couple of extra analog gauges; I also preferred the design of its configurable electronic gauges over those in the Caddy)
- interior lighting (why couldn’t the CT5 include some colour configurability like you get in a Mustang?)
- charisma (compliments from pedestrians and motorists pretty much every time I drove it, though enthusiasts do notice and compliment the Caddy - even a Tesla guy, once)
- my wife liked it better
As I’m already on my second Blackwing after having only owned that one Mustang, you can surmise that I have a preference.
Reflected above, too, I suppose.
Nevertheless, I do feel more than a little nostalgic for my Mustang every now and then and I think for good reasons.
I thought that Ford was working on a 4-door Mustang?problem is Ford doesnt put the coyote in a sedan and some of us just dont want coupes. i dont think they even make any sedans any more
its great to have the LT4 available in camaro/corvette coupe or 5bw sedan form. similarly with the challenger/charger. wish ford offered the same choice
Dakar Horse? ...for the metathetic...That and maybe a Dakkar version.
I thought that Ford was working on a 4-door Mustang?
Agreed...but its definitely old guys with Vettes - LOL...at least from what I saw at Spring Mountain last spring...
With all the talk here about Mustangs and Blackwings, maybe I should chime in as I owned a 2020 Bullitt before I bought my first CT5 V Blackwing.
Forgot a couple of Clear Advantage Bullitt items:With all the talk here about Mustangs and Blackwings, maybe I should chime in as I owned a 2020 Bullitt before I bought my first CT5 V Blackwing.
Here’s my (very subjective) input based on my experience:
Clear Advantage Blackwing:
- handling
- steering
- power (the Bullitt was no slouch but the Caddy has just gobs and gobs of torque and supercharged power at almost any engine speed)
- clutch (the engagement point in the Bullitt always felt weird - too high or something)
- transmission (the Bullitt’s Getrag, which was also in the GT but not the Shelby and the Mach 1, is but a peasant compared to the Caddy’s noble Tremec)
- outward visibility (but is that just the electronic mirror?)
- general utility (Mustang trunk was bigger though)
- comfort (Bullitt wasn’t awful by any means, and certainly not for the price, but no competition for a $100k luxury sports sedan)
- electronics (electronic mirror, wireless CarPlay & charging, surround vision recording, etc. all unavailable in the Bullitt)
Slight Advantage Blackwing
- ride (my Bullitt had magnaride, too, so its ride was almost as good)
- overall interior quality (the Caddy is good but should be better for the price while overall my Bullitt was fine, too much cheap plastic in both, though more in the Mustang)
Slight Advantage Bullitt
- engine sound (the LT4 sounds great but edge here to the Coyote)
- engine intangibles (while the LT4 is great the Coyote is somehow slightly more fun to run through the gears - maybe that’s just the sound, though?)
- fuel economy (then again, who cares…)
- sound system (more oomph in the Bullitt, though neither car’s stock stereo is spectacular)
Clear Advantage Bullitt
- exterior styling (while the CT5 looks good, the S550 is truly a looker - I think it’s just too common for car enthusiasts like us to notice how great it looks anymore)
- interior design (miss that cue ball shifter, those aeronautic-style switches, and the twin cowl dash, even though it may have all been somewhat cheaply executed)
- trunk (noticeably larger, as already mentioned)
- instrumentation (the Bullitt package, like the GT’s, added a couple of extra analog gauges; I also preferred the design of its configurable electronic gauges over those in the Caddy)
- interior lighting (why couldn’t the CT5 include some colour configurability like you get in a Mustang?)
- charisma (compliments from pedestrians and motorists pretty much every time I drove it, though enthusiasts do notice and compliment the Caddy - even a Tesla guy, once)
- my wife liked it better
As I’m already on my second Blackwing after having only owned that one Mustang, you can surmise that I have a preference.
Reflected above, too, I suppose.
Nevertheless, I do feel more than a little nostalgic for my Mustang every now and then and I think for good reasons.
Agree - the need to depress the BW’s brake pedal is a mistake.Forgot a couple of Clear Advantage Bullitt items:
- you could start the car with just the clutch depressed (it’s dumb and potentially dangerous for one to have to depress both the clutch and brake, e.g., if you accidentally stall in an intersection with someone on your tail)
Fully agree with you on this.Slight Advantage Bullitt
- engine sound (the LT4 sounds great but edge here to the Coyote)
- engine intangibles (while the LT4 is great the Coyote is somehow slightly more fun to run through the gears - maybe that’s just the sound, though?)