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Give me odds by making me pay in Canadian if I’m wrong, which isn’t so bad for you because if I’m wrong, the Canadian dollar will go up.
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Now you want 1.5:1 odds in your favor. I do feel good after many of my election predictions turned out correct, but I also want a fair deal. I’ll take the odds, but I going to charge you a 25% tariff.
 
Now you want 1.5:1 odds in your favor. I do feel good after many of my election predictions turned out correct, but I also want a fair deal. I’ll take the odds, but I going to charge you a 25% tariff.
That is funny. 😅
 
I think you are right on the XT4, my salesperson was pissed they discontinued it because it was a volume leader/got people in the door. Didn’t make any sense to him.
Tariffs aside, if GM is killing the XT models, then the CTs are not long for this world. They're a fraction of XT sales.
 
I'm not a fan of the XTs (nothing wrong with them and absolutely not a single thing exciting about them) but with them all going away, I fear Cadillac is being a bit too obstinate with an all-EV strategy. They need to read the room better because mainstream America and the ruling pols are giving clear signals...
 
All bets that there will be an ‘26 are off with the tariffs being implemented on Tuesday.
All cars built in North America contain numerous parts and raw materials (steel, aluminum, oil and petroleum products) that have crossed either or both the Mexican and Canadian border before they are assembled into a vehicle.
Some of the parts cross several times during the production process.
E.g., the Bullitt I owned before my first Blackwing was assembled in Michigan but its engine came from Canada, as many Ford engines have for more than half a century.
That engine no doubt itself contained parts from the US, not to mention the rest of the world.
The LSA engine in the V Wagon I owned before the Mustang had an engine that was assembled in Mexico which similarly very likely contained components that originated in the US as well as many other parts of the world.
That whole integrated long-standing production industry will now require reorganization, retrenchment, and mitigation of costs and losses unless an exception is made for cars and car parts. (For those that don’t know: there has been free trade in the auto sector between Canada and the US since the sixties, so the connections are deep, long-standing, and complex.)
Without such an exception, which I’m becoming less hopeful about every time your president speaks about the issue, I believe that we will soon see factories closing, huge layoffs on both sides of the two borders, and the discontinuation of numerous models of cars as part of the retrenchment.
I expect this will include all the CT5s as they can’t be making GM much money given their low sales volumes.
In other words, and I hope I’m wrong, it’s over after the ‘25, and they may even cut production of that model year short.
There’s one good thing that may come out of all this: some leading politicians here are advocating for a 100% retaliatory tariff on Teslas that are shipped to Canada.
Please God make it so!
😉
The components can cross the border multiple times before being a final assembly component?
 
The components can cross the border multiple times before being a final assembly component?
Back and forth six times or more:

Take the U.S. auto industry, which is really a North American industry because supply chains in the three countries are highly integrated. In 2024 Canada supplied almost 13% of U.S. imports of auto parts and Mexico nearly 42%. Industry experts say a vehicle made on the continent goes back and forth across borders a half dozen times or more, as companies source components and add value in the most cost-effective ways.

And everyone benefits. The office of the U.S. Trade Representative says that in 2023 the industry added more than $809 billion to the U.S. economy, or about 11.2% of total U.S. manufacturing output, supporting “9.7 million direct and indirect U.S. jobs.” In 2022 the U.S. exported $75.4 billion in vehicles and parts to Canada and Mexico. That number jumped 14% in 2023 to $86.2 billion, according to the American Automotive Policy Council.

American car makers would be much less competitive without this trade.


 
When I went to the NY International Car Show in 2023, they didn't even have any Cadillacs on display. A few car manufacturers decided not to show up. I was speaking with one of GMs reps there from Warren , Michigan.....told me that Cadillac was on the fence about even producing a 2025 model of Blackwings. He said that they came up with the idea of making a V8/Supercharged Cadillac in order to go out with a BANG because they were gearing up to go mostly EV's. Now that EV's haven't really become what they expected, I guess they are sticking with what sells.
I am friends with the owner of the Cadillac dealership where I bought my 5BW. The family had already previously sold their Chevrolet dealership to concentrate on Cadillac. At that time in 2022, many Cadillac dealers (150 of them in 2020) decided to take buyouts from GM and stop selling Cadillacs because of the demands placed on them to tool up their service departments to work on EV's. She had already bought 2 forklifts and other equipment (to remove the heavy batteries) and had them stored for when they were to go into EV service. Now she is pissed that she spent alot of money and will not get a return on her investments for EV work. There are now 564 Caddy dealers left (down from 921) , who were told to be ready by 2030 for EV's or else take the buyout.
 
So, back to the point of this thread: the OP wants to buy some cars.

Aside from the obvious financial impact (which he says is not currently an issue, good for him!) for me the biggest issue has always been storage. But then I thought about it last night, and people that have serious money usually also have no problem building serious garage space, so I guess that's not an issue either. Me personally, I don't think cars should be stored, put on battery tenders and driven only occasionally just to keep things in shape, rather than being used and enjoyed on a near daily basis. But hey, people collect things, and so if your collection is more than one, than you do have to do some kind of juggling.

OK, that got us nowhere.

How about waiting a few years to see how things settle down? Then, if you still want a BW, find a nice used one owner garage queen and get that. The engine lottery is something that no one can predict, other than to suggest that more people than not have had zero issues.

As for the GR Supra, I just bought one of those (new) in December. It just turned 1000 miles yesterday. It's a fun car, I like it. The manual transmission shifter is much better than the typical BMW stuff, but the rest of the car, except for the body, is all BMW. So it feels all familiar to me, the only real downside is that it's a low production car and whereas you could take a Z4 to a BMW dealer with a pretty good chance of it getting repaired, anecdotal evidence is that when you go to Toyota for service, they are somewhat clueless. And, you know, Toyota. The land of Camry and Prius.

Like the BW, the Supra is difficult to find, difficult to purchase at a discount, and production is ending next year I believe.
 
Not for nothing but the tariffs, at least these tariffs, aren't really about manufacturing. They're about leverage to get something unrelated done that we want.

In the case of these, we're looking for help with the border and fentanyl coming into the US.

Similar to how we saw the threat of tariffs in Venezuela and Columbia, that leverage worked and the tariffs were removed, I could see the same happening here.

For that reason, I'm putting my $50 on a 2026 happening
 
You don't tariff a country who is a great ally and trade partner (i.e. Canada) because 1% of immigration and fentanyl come across the border unless you're a moron or like @bamagrad03 said, you want something.

On another note, I think the Supra is pretty cool. I've tried to talk my wife into one. I bet if it was a convertible she'd be all over it.
 
You don't tariff a country who is a great ally and trade partner (i.e. Canada) because 1% of immigration and fentanyl come across the border unless you're a moron or like @bamagrad03 said, you want something.

On another note, I think the Supra is pretty cool. I've tried to talk my wife into one. I bet if it was a convertible she'd be all over it.
The danger is that he wants to raise tariffs by enormous 19th century amounts to raise money for a tax cut, which is economically stupid. But this way to raise revenue is a bizarre obsession of Trump's, and I think he doesn't want to come right out and say it because tax cuts for the rich doesn't play to his base.
So he makes up sh*t about the borders, which sh* is total complete bullsh*t when it comes to the northern border according to the data of the Department of Homeland Security itself.
Sorry, politics, I know, but we in Canada are getting, I think understandably, very upset and, sadly, many of us very anti-American in our views, too, because of the way we are being treated.
Even when there are legitimate issues to discuss - and no doubt there are - this is not how you treat a close international friend and ally.
To kind of get back on topic: if I am (I hope not) right and this is all about the new administration's bizarre and stupid tariff revenue obsession, sayonara 2026 CT5.
 
Back and forth six times or more:

Take the U.S. auto industry, which is really a North American industry because supply chains in the three countries are highly integrated. In 2024 Canada supplied almost 13% of U.S. imports of auto parts and Mexico nearly 42%. Industry experts say a vehicle made on the continent goes back and forth across borders a half dozen times or more, as companies source components and add value in the most cost-effective ways.

And everyone benefits. The office of the U.S. Trade Representative says that in 2023 the industry added more than $809 billion to the U.S. economy, or about 11.2% of total U.S. manufacturing output, supporting “9.7 million direct and indirect U.S. jobs.” In 2022 the U.S. exported $75.4 billion in vehicles and parts to Canada and Mexico. That number jumped 14% in 2023 to $86.2 billion, according to the American Automotive Policy Council.

American car makers would be much less competitive without this trade.



And here we go...
 
The danger is that he wants to raise tariffs by enormous 19th century amounts to raise money for a tax cut, which is economically stupid. But this way to raise revenue is a bizarre obsession of Trump's, and I think he doesn't want to come right out and say it because tax cuts for the rich doesn't play to his base.
So he makes up sh*t about the borders, which sh* is total complete bullsh*t when it comes to the northern border according to the data of the Department of Homeland Security itself.
Sorry, politics, I know, but we in Canada are getting, I think understandably, very upset and, sadly, many of us very anti-American in our views, too, because of the way we are being treated.
Even when there are legitimate issues to discuss - and no doubt there are - this is not how you treat a close international friend and ally.
To kind of get back on topic: if I am (I hope not) right and this is all about the new administration's bizarre and stupid tariff revenue obsession, sayonara 2026 CT5.
So, it was exactly as I said, the tariff threat worked, we reached a deal and they're no suspended

 
My father was born in Canada, moved here as a child. I look out my window every morning and straight across the water I am looking at Canada. I travel there all the time, more than I do within the states. I just got back from a ski trip to Alberta last week and everybody there was saying that they still love America and want to be friends and don't understand why they're being treated poorly. Everybody was polite and great to get along with, as always.

So, to those across the border, most of us still want to be allies and friends and hope this disaster clears up sooner rather than later. I literally live on the border and aside from the random illegal from some foreign country trying to be smuggled in once in a while, we don't have drug and immigrant problems coming from Canada.

Oh yeah, go ahead and buy the blackwing. If you are concerned about engine failure, know that it can happen to any brand.
 
So, it was exactly as I said, the tariff threat worked, we reached a deal and they're no suspended

Mexico only, even though there is no issue at the Canadian border.
So now it's just us Canadians, at least in North America (not counting Greenland) who have to have to hold their breath and see what happens.
Great way to maintain friendly relations with allies.
 
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Oh yeah, go ahead and buy the blackwing. If you are concerned about engine failure, know that it can happen to any brand.
Thanks for this post.
And with that, this it to say that I need to get back on track myself, especially as I am the kind of forum member who complains when these threads go off on long political tangents.
So, my deepest Canadian apologies for the distraction, and, yes, stop worrying about the engine and buy a BW, they are one of the greatest things to ever come out of America, fantastic vehicle, and there are a lot of more important things to worry about than whether a magnificently engineered engine with a 7 year warranty is going to blow up.
 
I feel for our Canadian friends and for all who may/will suffer under many of the policies and actions being taken by the current administration - including a new friend who may lose his new job at USDA that involves food aid to some African countries that is helping not only Africans but American farmers where the US gov't buys surplus food grown by US farmers to provide to starving folks - a win-win for both. The program is currently suspended.

I thinks its possible to discuss tariffs in this forum (hopefully without rancor) as it is an issue that directly affects the car market and such. Generally I am against tariffs except in cases of a specifically targeted nature to affect unfair trade.subsidy issues etc and I am mostly opposed to these proposed and imagined tariffs for a number of reasons....but mostly wrt wanting to avoid unnecessary trade wars (particularly with allies) and the adverse impact they will have on American consumers (and you Canadians as well) and with additional concerns of negative effects on trade and wold economic prosperity in general.

All that being said i get where folks are coming from wrt the idea of them as a negotiating tactic that possibly could be successful in some cases (still not what I would do). And i can see the potential for some positive outcome (though not sure enough to offset the risks and damage).

This also reminds me of a conversation I had with a German Army Colonel sitting across from me at a Beer garden in Munich in 2003 while we were there picking up our BMW ZHP . We were discussing the negativity of many Europeans toward American hardline policies. And he wanted to reassure me that while the Euros may complain that secretly many approve and wish us to keep pushing as its sometimes nice to have someone on our side playing hardball even if most are too pussified to want to play (something to that effect anyway). In the case of these tariffs one can only hope for the best even if the inclination is to oppose and rightly fear for the consequences.
 
I saw an analysis of the proportion of the parts in a car that crosses the border and thus will have the cost raised by the tariff. I don't have the numbers in front of me but my recollection is that Honda and Stellantis were the most affected. GM and Ford were in the middle and Hyundai was the least affected. It will be ironic if the main automotive beneficiaries of Trump's tariffs turn out to be the Koreans.

Regarding the BW, I think you would have to have deep knowledge of how many times each of the components crosses the border to be able to estimate how much the total cost of production will rise. Plus you would have to be able to predict what proportion of the tariffs the suppliers will be able to swallow to have any idea of how much the consumer price will rise. Without that knowledge I think it is pointless to try to predict the fate of individual models.
 
, we don't have drug and immigrant problems coming from Canada.

Oh yeah, go ahead and buy the blackwing. If you are concerned about engine failure, know that it can happen to any brand.
Actually we do. I only base my opinion on a BIL state trooper in a NE state that works only the highway from a Canadian entrance. Not a week to pass that he isn't intercepting meth and fentanyl in large supply.
 
Actually we do. I only base my opinion on a BIL state trooper in a NE state that works only the highway from a Canadian entrance. Not a week to pass that he isn't intercepting meth and fentanyl in large supply.
I have a hard time believing what your brother-in-law says. I live 15 minutes from one border crossing and 25 minutes from the next border crossing. I am friends with people who work at the customs buildings, and know a lot of local troopers. None of them ever mentioned what you just said. The biggest issue we have is that the border between the US and Canada, about 1 hour north of me, is a land border and it is all on the native reservation. Therefore, it can't really be monitored in a meaningful way.
 

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