2025 5-BW Precision Package Questions...

[No Usury]

Has anyone driven or ridden in a BW with the new Precision Pack option? Even a test mule, i.e. someone with a friend at GM, etc. would be good.

I am wondering if I should get this with my 2025 order. It basically makes the 5-BW a track car. My question is, what would it be like as a daily driver? Would it be way too stiff?

Here's a short video on it here: CT5-V BW w/Precision Pack

Another question would be the carbon-ceramic brakes... I've heard they're not good cold and could cause issues on a DD because of this. Anyone?

My guess is that it would be the same as or similar to a Camaro 1LE, but I don't know anyone who has a 1LE either.

Any input appreciated.

 

[1Evil55]

I can't recall anyone posting they've driven one. I have seen a few posts from members that determined the parts necessary to create their own for a fraction of the cost. You may consider making a precision pack for yourself.

 

[jbawden]

The BW is already every bit of a track car that it can be without that outrageously expensive kit. If you want to make a future unicorn, then go for it, but adding aftermarket rear toe links to get proper camber is really all you need from that kit for semi-serious track duty. The 5BW is far too powerful for max effort lap times without a cage and full harness.

Either brake package will work for street or track duty, but if you do a LOT of track days, the CCB rotors are very expensive to replace, so its recommended to go iron rotors.

 

[RobC7]

The reviews will be out tomorrow just wait till then.

 

[jbawden]

2025 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing First Drive Review: Still the Best Car GM Makes by Far

A new Precision Package derived from Caddy's racing experience makes the updated Blackwing an even greater track beast than before.

www.thedrive.com

 

[Champale]

So who is going to be the 1st to add the suspension components and get the Mag ride reflashed on their non-PP car?

 

[Ex36]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/a62938827/2025-cadillac-ct5-v-blackwing-precision-pack-review/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_rdt&utm_medium=email&date=111924&utm_campaign=nl37484305&oo=&GID=a215877f2e957ce9a2bc3419e8a28e2f165e0b97f4c9cd5dac799fc0c5f9f6fe&user_email=a215877f2e957ce9a2bc3419e8a28e2f165e0b97f4c9cd5dac799fc0c5f9f6fe&utm_term=TEST-%20NEW%20TEST%20-%20Sending%20List%20-%20AM%20180D%20Clicks%2C%20NON%20AM%2090D%20Opens%2C%20Both%20Subbed%20Last%2030D

 

[Neek]

The newest Smoking Tire Podcast has Matt Farah's impressions after driving the '25 with Precision Package on track and street.

TLDR; He likes it, it makes your inputs lead to car behavior more directly (and subsequent faster lap times) without detracting from the general daily drive quality. He raved about the new iteration of the PDR as well.

 

[Mike Martz]

I have been considering ordering a 2025 with the Precision Pack but I still can't deal with $18k. I track my 2022 occasionally and the iron brakes are so easy to service. Jacking the car up is a pain in the a** but the brakes are simple!

Plus I have spent my time in the Goat Rodeo and not sure I want to go back there. I do like the new PDR but not at $18K.
You can still delete the carbon backs on the high-end seats; wonder if they would allow you to delete the CCBs?
I might jump in if that were the case (which I doubt) so I am pretty sure I will stick with my 2022.

 

[GoldfishTX]

I couldn't wrap my head around the price, either. I won't get that much out of it with its 95% street life. I would love to drive the difference though. Maybe these will show up at spring mountain.

 

[thefleshrocket]

I can't recall anyone posting they've driven one. I have seen a few posts from members that determined the parts necessary to create their own for a fraction of the cost. You may consider making a precision pack for yourself.

I'd love to see those posts. The PP has me considering trading my 2023 for a PP-equipped 2025, but if I could DIY on my 2023, AND save money, I think that'd be the course I would take.

 

[5VBW Nick]

I'd love to see those posts. The PP has me considering trading my 2023 for a PP-equipped 2025, but if I could DIY on my 2023, AND save money, I think that'd be the course I would take.

It is a lot more than a couple suspension arms, it is a retune of the magna-ride and other systems to all work in harmony for the full effect.

 

[thefleshrocket]

It is a lot more than a couple suspension arms, it is a retune of the magna-ride and other systems to all work in harmony for the full effect.

I figured as much. Is that something that might ever be available to an end user, or is it a pipe dream to hope that someone other than the Cadillac factory would be able to outfit a 5BW with the PP?

 

[DriverDaily]

It is a lot more than a couple suspension arms, it is a retune of the magna-ride and other systems to all work in harmony for the full effect.

Just consider the bushings. One of the cheapest parts to buy new, but one of the most labor intensive to replace.

Add those new, stiffer toe links and all the extra force ends up in your soft factory bushings.

 

[MatthewAMEL]

I did order a '25 PP car to replace my '23. Went back to Dustin at Sewell. I spoke to a few folks about retro-fitting the hardware for a 'DIY PP', but in the end decided to get the OEM PP car and slap another extended warranty on it.

Regarding tires on the PP: All of the cars ordered with it to-date are shipping with the PS4S. GM learned from the ZL1 1LE debacle. Tires <200TW cannot stand the cold. GM was shipping ZL1 1LE's with 100TW Goodyear Supercar 3R tires after they sat in the Grand River lot at near-zero temps. The cars were arriving with horribly cracked tires that were unusable. Dealers were thrilled about replacing $2,500 tires at delivery. On my build sheet, since I specified the Cup2R, there is a line item advising it will delay shipping. Ostensibly until temps are consistently above freezing for storage and transport.

@DriverDaily is 100% correct about the rear cradle bushings. On Alpha chassis cars they have to be cut or torched out. On my 1LE, shops were quoting $2k just for the labor on that job.

 

[jbawden]

@MatthewAMEL Well you certainly seem like your the core demographic that GM had in mind with the PP. I'm already looking forward to your real world, "regular guy" comparisons to your '23. As I read on The Drive, the package is really $9k worth of new bits and engineering when you take out CCB from the equation.

 

[Todd]

I did order a '25 PP car to replace my '23. Went back to Dustin at Sewell. I spoke to a few folks about retro-fitting the hardware for a 'DIY PP', but in the end decided to get the OEM PP car and slap another extended warranty on it.

Regarding tires on the PP: All of the cars ordered with it to-date are shipping with the PS4S. GM learned from the ZL1 1LE debacle. Tires <200TW cannot stand the cold. GM was shipping ZL1 1LE's with 100TW Goodyear Supercar 3R tires after they sat in the Grand River lot at near-zero temps. The cars were arriving with horribly cracked tires that were unusable. Dealers were thrilled about replacing $2,500 tires at delivery. On my build sheet, since I specified the Cup2R, there is a line item advising it will delay shipping. Ostensibly until temps are consistently above freezing for storage and transport.

@DriverDaily is 100% correct about the rear cradle bushings. On Alpha chassis cars they have to be cut or torched out. On my 1LE, shops were quoting $2k just for the labor on that job.

However all the videos I’ve seen of reviewers raving about the PP had the Cup 2R tires installed. I’d wager those tires alone would transform the handling.

Then you figure the rest of the components were dialed in around the 2Rs.

Then you realize how massively impractical R compound tires are for a daily driven car in variable weather conditions.

And then you question paying all that money when you will not be using the main ingredient (the 2Rs).

Then you decide not to check that option box.

True story.

 

[5VBW Nick]

Unless you live in So Cal, 2Rs are not worth it. You need warm weather and good roads, or a track.

 

[rubberduck]

The PP setup is only going to be noticeable and beneficial on the track. For street, a complete waste of money.

 

[No Usury]

Wow, talk about sour grapes...