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Maybe Santa can get you one this year:

Unfortunately for me, when I bought my current house in 2005, I planned on building a 2 car garage with lifts and a loft in the back/side yard. After adding a huge dormer and spending alot of money on home renovations, I was ready to tackle my mancave. THEN, I was told by my town that I could not build a garage as planned, due to how my property is zoned !!! IF I had known that in the beginning, I NEVER would have even bought the house ! I am retired now and I am on the lookout to get the hell out of very expensive NY and move down south....somewhere..... and start again. This time with a huge garage, custom built. Hopefully before I die ! Tennessee is looking promising.
 
Picked it up today!

2025 Lucid Air Pure
Single-motor, RWD. 430 hp, 406 lb-ft.
Rated for 372 miles of range on these optional 20" wheels. It would be 420 miles on the stock 19" wheels.
Car and Driver got 0-60 in 4.3 seconds and the 1/4 mile in 12.6 seconds.
4500-ish lbs.

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I always felt that the Lucid was the best styled EV made. I would have kept the 19 inch wheels for the better range. That's just me.

To get all the discounts I had to take a vehicle that was already built and assigned to Houston. My preference was the 19" wheels in the Stealth (dark) coloring, but they were not available. I had to choose between shiny 19s and dark 20s. The dark 20s look way, way better- especially with aero covers removed.

Still, I was leaning towards 19s for the range - until I drove a car with them. They are very, very weak sauce tires for a car with sporty pretensions. I was able to get the car to push in a not very aggressive turn. (One of the SavageGeese guys also commented that he felt the front end on the Pure with 19s gave up too early when he was driving it.) That was the straw that pushed me to the 20s. I'll probably never take a road trip where the extra range matters, but I'll be feeling this car in turns every time I drive it.

Still not sure I made the right choice, but the deed is done.
 
As I advised weeks ago, the 20" wheels are 100% the right choice. It's a significant range hit for sure, but what you gain in performance and aesthetics is well worth it. You need to get those aero covers off ASAP as they trap rocks and debris that damage the coating. Make sure to get the get the center cap kit from the service center.
 
Congrats on the pick-up! So, any preliminary driving impressions particularly as it's relates to your BW? Pros/cons, etc.?
 
So, any preliminary driving impressions particularly as it's relates to your BW? Pros/cons, etc.?

Negatives
Lots of the tech feels gimmicky.

It has like 3 times the screen real estate that the Blackwing has, and shows 1/3 the info. Then again, in an EV I don't need to show oil temp, oil pressure, coolant temp, and trans temp.

The keyless entry sucks. It's either too much automation, or not enough. I can set it up to fully wake the car up when I approach, and shut it down when I walk away, but I don't like that. I don't need the Lucid waking up when I go into my garage to drive my Blackwing, or get a broom, or something. The next lowest level of automation requires me to pull the fob out and click it. I want to keep my fob in my pocket, but walk up and touch the door to wake up, but that is not an option. Maybe I just need to embrace the automation, but I am not there yet. I also can't fully shut down the car without using the fob. There is no start/stop button.

Positives
The purchase/lease experience was the best I have ever had with a vehicle - by far. This is a direct sales thing, so the staff in the Houston Studio just answer questions and do test drives and stuff. For the actual purchase, I had to create an account on the Lucid website to make a $500 down payment via credit card to reserve the car. A day later the website had an offer for me to accept. When it came time to seal the deal, financing people in California e-mailed me paperwork that I did online doc-sign stuff with. Then the balance due at delivery showed up in my online account, which I paid via credit card. No hard-sell dealer add-ons or anything. That was the purchase process. When I went up to the Studio to pick the car up, that's all it was: a pick-up. They gave me a tutorial on the vehicles features and sent me on my way.

It is so, so easy to drive. My drive home was 40 miles in afternoon rush hour, including Houston's infamous West Loop. With max regen braking on, I mostly drove it with one pedal and barely touched the brakes. Even on inclines, the automatic brake hold feature held the car. With Creep mode on I could creep along at low speed. When I needed to change lanes and accelerate, a ton of torque was right there, right now. It actually has a transmission, but it's a single speed gear reduction, so no shifting. It was just a very stress-free driving experience. (Or about as stress-free as driving a new-to-me car in rush hour could be, LOL.)

Very comfortable. The suspension is traditional springs with active dampers. It feels at least as comfortable as my Blackwing in its softest setting. It's 5" wider than my CT4, without the need for a massive trans tunnel, so it feels way less cramped. The backset leg room is ridiculous - and in the Pure with fewer batteries the backseat floor is lower freeing making it feel even more spacious.

So far it feels like it handles really well. Not at the Blackwing level, but this might be the best-handling car I've driven that is not an actual sports car. Steering is light, but very responsive and accurate. I haven't pushed it hard, but so far it feels planted in corners. It weighs 700 lbs more than my 4BW, but it hides the mass well.

Feels about as fast as my CT4 Blackwing. In instrumented tests, Car and Driver got 0-60 and 1/4 miles times two to three tenths slower in the Lucid than the 4BW. But if you did drag races side-by-side 100 times, I'd bet the Lucid would win 90 times, due to how much easier it is to extract the performance.

Some of the automation I complained about above actually is sort of cool. When I get into the car, by the time I sit down the air conditioning is running and the radio is going. I put on my seatbelt and that's it, the car is ready to go. I find myself sitting there because it is too easy; it seems like I should have other stuff to push and click before driving away. When leaving the house I typically let my other two vehicles warm up for at least a minute before driving off; sometimes 5 minutes if they have been sitting for a week. With the EV I just *go*.

I can leave the A/C running while I run into a grocery store to shop. I suspect this will be amazeballs when running errands in the Texas summer. Through the mobile app, you can also pre-warm/cool the cabin while the car is in your garage.


Overall
I think most Blackwing owners would find this a pleasant place to be. You 5BW guys who need more power could get a dual motor Touring model for which Car and Driver got 0-60 in 3.0 seconds. (And for you *really* rich 5BW guys who have rotating driveway turntables and stuff, there are two trims above Touring that are even faster.)

From outside the EV culture looking in, I totally get that EV owners might come across as the virtue-signaling granola-eating hippies of car culture. But in a multi-car househould, an EV just might be the ultimate work commuting appliance. And Lucid is showing they can do that while still being interesting to the enthusiast.

I can totally see how people get addicted to these things.
 
Negatives
Lots of the tech feels gimmicky.

It has like 3 times the screen real estate that the Blackwing has, and shows 1/3 the info. Then again, in an EV I don't need to show oil temp, oil pressure, coolant temp, and trans temp.

The keyless entry sucks. It's either too much automation, or not enough. I can set it up to fully wake the car up when I approach, and shut it down when I walk away, but I don't like that. I don't need the Lucid waking up when I go into my garage to drive my Blackwing, or get a broom, or something. The next lowest level of automation requires me to pull the fob out and click it. I want to keep my fob in my pocket, but walk up and touch the door to wake up, but that is not an option. Maybe I just need to embrace the automation, but I am not there yet. I also can't fully shut down the car without using the fob. There is no start/stop button.

Positives
The purchase/lease experience was the best I have ever had with a vehicle - by far. This is a direct sales thing, so the staff in the Houston Studio just answer questions and do test drives and stuff. For the actual purchase, I had to create an account on the Lucid website to make a $500 down payment via credit card to reserve the car. A day later the website had an offer for me to accept. When it came time to seal the deal, financing people in California e-mailed me paperwork that I did online doc-sign stuff with. Then the balance due at delivery showed up in my online account, which I paid via credit card. No hard-sell dealer add-ons or anything. That was the purchase process. When I went up to the Studio to pick the car up, that's all it was: a pick-up. They gave me a tutorial on the vehicles features and sent me on my way.

It is so, so easy to drive. My drive home was 40 miles in afternoon rush hour, including Houston's infamous West Loop. With max regen braking on, I mostly drove it with one pedal and barely touched the brakes. Even on inclines, the automatic brake hold feature held the car. With Creep mode on I could creep along at low speed. When I needed to change lanes and accelerate, a ton of torque was right there, right now. It actually has a transmission, but it's a single speed gear reduction, so no shifting. It was just a very stress-free driving experience. (Or about as stress-free as driving a new-to-me car in rush hour could be, LOL.)

Very comfortable. The suspension is traditional springs with active dampers. It feels at least as comfortable as my Blackwing in its softest setting. It's 5" wider than my CT4, without the need for a massive trans tunnel, so it feels way less cramped. The backset leg room is ridiculous - and in the Pure with fewer batteries the backseat floor is lower freeing making it feel even more spacious.

So far it feels like it handles really well. Not at the Blackwing level, but this might be the best-handling car I've driven that is not an actual sports car. Steering is light, but very responsive and accurate. I haven't pushed it hard, but so far it feels planted in corners. It weighs 700 lbs more than my 4BW, but it hides the mass well.

Feels about as fast as my CT4 Blackwing. In instrumented tests, Car and Driver got 0-60 and 1/4 miles times two to three tenths slower in the Lucid than the 4BW. But if you did drag races side-by-side 100 times, I'd bet the Lucid would win 90 times, due to how much easier it is to extract the performance.

Some of the automation I complained about above actually is sort of cool. When I get into the car, by the time I sit down the air conditioning is running and the radio is going. I put on my seatbelt and that's it, the car is ready to go. I find myself sitting there because it is too easy; it seems like I should have other stuff to push and click before driving away. When leaving the house I typically let my other two vehicles warm up for at least a minute before driving off; sometimes 5 minutes if they have been sitting for a week. With the EV I just *go*.

I can leave the A/C running while I run into a grocery store to shop. I suspect this will be amazeballs when running errands in the Texas summer. Through the mobile app, you can also pre-warm/cool the cabin while the car is in your garage.


Overall
I think most Blackwing owners would find this a pleasant place to be. You 5BW guys who need more power could get a dual motor Touring model for which Car and Driver got 0-60 in 3.0 seconds. (And for you *really* rich 5BW guys who have rotating driveway turntables and stuff, there are two trims above Touring that are even faster.)

From outside the EV culture looking in, I totally get that EV owners might come across as the virtue-signaling granola-eating hippies of car culture. But in a multi-car househould, an EV just might be the ultimate work commuting appliance. And Lucid is showing they can do that while still being interesting to the enthusiast.

I can totally see how people get addicted to these things.
With regard to the keyless entry, I would suggest changing your behavior. Don't keep multiple car keys in your pockets, and put the ones not in use in Faraday pouches. It's good practice, and if you adopt it then your problem goes away.

Having said that, I agree that the behavior of our BWs is ideal, the key is sensed but nothing happens until we touch the door to open it.
 
Faraday pouches are a good practice to prevent theft as well. Thieves can amplify the signal from a fob and the car will just open for them. It's enough to get in and do what they need to do.
 
My Cadillac Lyriq has a start/stop button. Its the silliest thing on earth. Shifting into reverse or drive requires you to press the brake pedal, so there's no danger of it running away as you climb in.

The key fob is sensed and doors unlock, so why delay my journey by making me press a silly button that doesn't start anything anyway ?!?

Its really the only annoying part of the vehicle.
 
Great write-up, Berserker! Thank you for that. Your thoughts echo may of mine and my Model S. It's just so easy to own and drive. You won't have to do probably ANY maintenance during your lease term either unless you just have to rotate tires or add windshield washer fluid.

Does the Lucid guess which direction to go when you push on the brake to start driving? My Tesla does and it gets it right 95% of the time by using the cameras to determine the least obstructed direction. So, to drive for me (seems similar for you) is open door with self-presenting handles, sit down, put seat belt on, push brake (it preselects forward or reverse), and then hit throttle to go. If backing out of driveway, you'll hit brake and turn wheel a certain distance and then it automatically selects forward. It's just so easy.

Another super nice thing is with electric, you can "leave the engine running for hours" without feeling bad. pre-cool the cabin, keep cabin temp on while in the store with door locked, etc. The electrical HVAC system is extremely robust in Tesla and Lucid as it also cools the batteries, so you can run it all day long if you want and besides energy usage, it's a non-issue. Definitely nice for crappy Texas summers.

That said, I drove my 5BW on Friday and took it to Sewell for new tires and alignment. I'm keeping that car forever. :D
 
You need to get those aero covers off ASAP

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With regard to the keyless entry, I would suggest changing your behavior. Don't keep multiple car keys in your pockets

That behavior has kept me from locking myself out of my car for many decades. That said, what I am doing now is keeping the credit card sized alternate "key" in my wallet as a backup, and only grabbing the fob when driving the car.

I also found that there is a middle-ground of door automation I was unaware of. You can push in on the handles to lock and unlock the car. Not much different than the little button on the CT4's door handles - though the Cadillac's works better.

So far, so good.

Does the Lucid guess which direction to go when you push on the brake to start driving? My Tesla does and it gets it right 95% of the time by using the cameras to determine the least obstructed direction

No, it doesn't.

Another super nice thing is with electric, you can "leave the engine running for hours" without feeling bad. pre-cool the cabin, keep cabin temp on while in the store with door locked, etc. The electrical HVAC system is extremely robust in Tesla and Lucid as it also cools the batteries, so you can run it all day long if you want and besides energy usage, it's a non-issue. Definitely nice for crappy Texas summers.

I've already experimented with this and it is dope AF. I am going to LOVE this during the summer.
 
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That behavior has kept me from locking myself out of my car for many decades. That said, what I am doing now is keeping the credit card sized alternate "key" in my wallet as a backup, and only grabbing the fob when driving the car.

I also found that there is a middle-ground of door automation I was unaware of. You can push in on the handles to lock and unlock the car. Not much different than the little button on the CT4's door handles - though the Cadillac's works better.

So far, so good.



No, it doesn't.



I've already experimented with this and it is dope AF. I am going to LOVE this during the summer.


I love that the EVs don't need to warm up really. In the winter the heat blows hot almost immediately and the car is ready to go hard up the first on ramp.

In the ICE cars, by the time everything is fully heated up, I'm already pulling into the work garage (15 mile commute).
 
That behavior has kept me from locking myself out of my car for many decades. That said, what I am doing now is keeping the credit card sized alternate "key" in my wallet as a backup, and only grabbing the fob when driving the car.
I'm not following. Nothing I said would make it more likely to lock your key in the car. You can't get in the car with the key in the pouch, the pouch is only for when you're not driving it. You don't bring the pouch with you into the car.

Unless... you want to lock a key in the car for someone else to use later. For example, I plan to fly and leave my car at the airport. My daughter will be flying in when I'm gone. She will go to my car and I will unlock it remotely. She will get in, find the key in the pouch, pull it out, start the car, and drive away. Without the pouch I wouldn't be able to lock the key in the car, but this is the only time the pouch goes into the car.
 
I'm not following. Nothing I said would make it more likely to lock your key in the car.

As a newbie driver in the early 1980s, I once locked myself out of my car.

Since then I have always kept a car key on my key ring as a spare. I grabbed another key to actually drive with. I've occasionally left a key in my ignition over the ensuing decades, but always had the spare on my ring because I never take my key ring out of my pocket when I drive.

Modern fobs it harder to lock oneself out of one's car, but old habits die hard.

FWIW, I've already modified that habit with the Blackwing. The keyless entry is so good that I drive only with the fob on my key ring.
 

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