white98ls
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It might be because GM is synonymous with the small-block V8, while BMW is similarly synonymous with its straight-6.
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savethemanual
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There were only 2 M cars for a really long time too. Until bmw started throwing the m badge in everything that moves.
I think the bigger reason reviewers did this was they were launched together. GM should have staggered the launch.
T.O.Blackwing
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Exactly.
And if there were just an M3 and M5, you’d see the same little brother, big brother metaphors.
Matt27
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Historically it feels like we never did and it's still just the two engines across the whole real M line. I6 and TTV8.
T.O.Blackwing
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A quick search reveals that back in the day when there were just a few M models, Car and Driver similarly reviewed the M3 and M5 in light of each other:
Since an M car has always followed the introduction of a new 3-series, we awaited this latest M3 with nervous anticipation because the M3's big brother, the M5, although a technical triumph, had become complex to the point of creating an infuriating barrier between driver and machine.
Matt27
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... which is an open acknowledgement that they're different classes of car.
Same thing when the G80 came out where they talk about how much lighter and more nimble the smaller car is.
T.O.Blackwing
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This one is a true “dump” among media dumps:
Are these guys getting paid for this?
Hard to believe that this has anything to do with the original show.
Hard to believe that this has anything to do with the original show.
savethemanual
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What a stupid comparison.
Especially when the ct4 v blackwing exists and was available to budget replacement Jason camissa.
T.O.Blackwing
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I don’t think these guys really know how to drive, either, at least not compared to Jason or, say, the Throttle House guys.
Ergoc5
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Yeah that was a crap review
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I got the feeling they were, as we say in the UK, 'arsing about' instead of doing a proper review. Jethro has decent credentials as a journalist, can drive, and wrote a largely positive review of the 5BW in Evo magazine, although of course it just lost out to the M5 CS, because it's a European magazine. However, at no point was it said that the 5BW was worse than a base M3
The Hagerty videos definitely take some liberties for purposes of entertainment and making a story, but as others have said, in terms of journalism and presentation, Hagerty is annihilating Top Gear right now. They really should just let Top Gear die.
Ergoc5
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Yeah he admitted it wasn't his best lap and to that comment that "the M3 (base) is a better track car" maybe true since it's lighter but it depends what "better" means I guess. He could have done a better job with the BlackwingI got the feeling they were, as we say in the UK, 'arsing about' instead of doing a proper review. Jethro has decent credentials as a journalist, can drive, and wrote a largely positive review of the 5BW in Evo magazine, although of course it just lost out to the M5 CS, because it's a European magazine. However, at no point was it said that the 5BW was worse than a base M3
The Hagerty videos definitely take some liberties for purposes of entertainment and making a story, but as others have said, in terms of journalism and presentation, Hagerty is annihilating Top Gear right now. They really should just let Top Gear die.
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100% not even trying. I think it was for entertainment value, to not show up the M3 too much (as there is no manual M5), and to play into existing prejudices.
Europeans tend to be a bit snooty when it comes to American cars, if the 5BW had been made by Jaguar you can bet it would have been declared the finest car in the history of the world
Disclaimer: I'm British.
PL69
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I owned and tracked a 2023 M3 6MT with carbon buckets and traded it for a 4 Blackwing. Couldn't be happier.
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I think it was Jethro that reviewed the 4BW for Evo magazine and commented on the lack of steering feel (?). Every other review seemed to prefer the steering of the BW to the M3, so makes me wonder if it didn't have the track alignment or something. And yes, very weird they didn't include the 4BW.
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Yeah, why did you post that. Wish I could unsee that.
Roadhawk
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LOL...not sure if it was actually a car video...but I love the car - some wheels eh? And i like how they shot vid from another car as they were driving. I skimmed through but i didn't actually hear them say anything about the car or its performance (could have missed it)...
Badillac
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That is one thugged out Caddy. The Detroit in me has to respect that!
Badillac
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BW hauling ass!! The PDR is apparently 1mph slower than what odometer reads.
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