Tall Steve
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I was in my middle 50's before I could afford a Cadillac...
Dealers That Are Not Charging Above MSRP
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Finally-a-V
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Back in August of 2021, my sales manager told me he would only order Autos for stock. At that time, if you placed an order with a manual, your deposit was non refundable. With an auto, it was refundable. If you ordered a "odd" color or option, it was also non refundable. No clue what their policy is now. So @Throat Yogurt sales guy is on point.
rubberduck
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All I can say is, if a person cannot afford to pay cash for a car they shouldn't be buying it. Not necessarily the best strategy to pay cash, but at least should be able to without affecting other accepts of life.
shbox
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You just stomped on the dreams of 90% of the normal car buying public.
...but I know what you mean...
Matt27
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You just stomped on the dreams of 90% of the normal car buying public.
...but I know what you mean...
Generally agreed, but treasury bills are now yielding more than my (and I assume basically everybody else's) loan interest rate so... glad I held cash.
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Agreed. Just wait until the entire Cadillac portfolio is electric and the older demographic has no idea how to use the tech, charge, etc. They better figure out a way to start appealing to a younger demographic.
malakas
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Regarding the youngsters, having a car and being able to afford it (not blowing up your finances to get it) are 2 very different things.
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I feel the 5BW is definitely in a different demographic than the 4BW.
My 4BW was $61,385 MSRP, so we are talking half the price and only about $15k higher than the average price of a new vehicle today. So, for the money the 4BW is actually a pretty good performance value if you don't get carried away with options. I feel I am paying a premium over a Camaro SS with the LT1 but I am getting better visibility, utility (sedan/trunk), nicer interior and tech/gauges, etc. I don't really care what the badge says.
Tall Steve
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Some people purchasing a 5 Blackwing,
110K, +TTL, 84mo, 6% interest, $500 down, $1700.00 a month, LOL.......
110K, +TTL, 84mo, 6% interest, $500 down, $1700.00 a month, LOL.......
M2Cto4BW
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It's like walking into the Legion (VFW for US folks) hall on raffle night 
What's youthful for Caddy? Under 40? There are some 20-somethings and loads and loads of 30-somethings that have the $ for a 4BW no problem and fewer but still a decent amount for a 5BW. But they're getting M cars, P cars, Plaids, and AMGs instead. Or cheaper sporty VWs, Hondas, etc...
Obviously most dealers don't care about 'the brand' and are maxing profits, but if you are ADMing and/or providing an obtuse and lengthy ordering 'process', you've already lost 2 differentiators against those other brands when trying to get the yoof through the door.
What's youthful for Caddy? Under 40? There are some 20-somethings and loads and loads of 30-somethings that have the $ for a 4BW no problem and fewer but still a decent amount for a 5BW. But they're getting M cars, P cars, Plaids, and AMGs instead. Or cheaper sporty VWs, Hondas, etc...
Obviously most dealers don't care about 'the brand' and are maxing profits, but if you are ADMing and/or providing an obtuse and lengthy ordering 'process', you've already lost 2 differentiators against those other brands when trying to get the yoof through the door.
white98ls
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I have to say, the 1.49% I got for 65 months and $0 down in November on my Civic Type R is hard to let go of with inflation over 8%. Oh, and according to KBB it has appreciated despite the miles I've put on it. It's been nearly a free car other than tax/insurance/gas.
raptor5244 wrote
"The Texas folks are lucky to have a dealer that has built up their business like you have done. That said, the model doesn't necessarily scale well for the rest of the country, especially for a low production vehicle with supply shortages." Please explain this comment. Do you think Texas should have more Blackwing's than other states? If so why.
"The Texas folks are lucky to have a dealer that has built up their business like you have done. That said, the model doesn't necessarily scale well for the rest of the country, especially for a low production vehicle with supply shortages." Please explain this comment. Do you think Texas should have more Blackwing's than other states? If so why.
Tall Steve
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Yes, because everything is bigger and better in Texas! LOL, just joking guys so don't go and get all butt hurt and start another pissing match...
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Is that why all the porn videos are made in Texas?
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Tall Steve
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I was not aware of that as I'm not a porn fan..... Well, a lot of business are moving from California to Texas so I guess that could be right.....
Tall Steve
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That was not directed at you sir... (pissing match)
PrimeTime
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All of those "controls" are incumbent on who is the pocket in the process. "Kids" affording 100k cars tells me it's come to easy if you didn't sweat it. And I mean sweat it. Just my opine.
dribs15
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Whatever dealer/market traditionally sells the most is predicted to continue to sell the most...ipso facto gets the allocations.
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