rubberduck
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They are tough. You just need to get connected with watches as well as you are with Blackwings ;-)Getting a Rolex Submariner is harder than getting a Blackwing.... I have 3 more Rolex watches thats on my want list at my AD.. I never know when I will get the call to come get it....
Since we got some German watch fans out there, I submit the Sinn U50-T SDR Fully Tegimented. The things you need to know about this watch is that it is pronounced "Zinn" and Rolex or any other watch does not hold a candle to a tegimented watch as far as toughness! (1200 Vickers on the hardness scale using Submarine Steel)
Examples of different degrees of hardness:
Stainless steel: approx. 200–240 HV
Titanium Grade 2: approx. 210 HV
Titanium Grade 5: approx. 350 HV
Hardened mineral glass: approx. 800–900 HV
Tegimented stainless steel: 1200 HV
Sapphire crystal glass: approx. 2,000 HV
Diamond: > 4,500–10,000 HV
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Cool dial! Love that PR indicator.View attachment 16015
I like Sinn as well!
I talked with my local AD a couple of years back and he laid out his expectations for me as a customer. I quite frankly was not that interested in buying a bunch of watches I didn’t want and wining and dining him just to get on a wait list for a desirable timepiece.They are tough. You just need to get connected with watches as well as you are with Blackwings ;-)
Full agreement here. I am lucky to go back almost 25 years with several dealers that cover my brands of interest. Much tougher to gain traction if you turned to watches in the past 5 years.I talked with my local AD a couple of years back and he laid out his expectations for me as a customer. I quite frankly was not that interested in buying a bunch of watches I didn’t want and wining and dining him just to get on a wait list for a desirable timepiece.
The dealer business model is pretty crazy considering this is a mass produced product. I prefer the less well known and arguably better quality watches that most people would never know of or have any idea are expensive watches. I do have a sub no-date (the one watch that is in everyones Rolex collection) but it doesn’t get much use.
Obviously it varies wildly from one AD to the next regarding how they determine who gets the most desirable watches, but my experience has been less irritating with ADs than car dealers. My experience with ADs has been more one of loyalty being rewarded. They realize you didn’t walk out the door and make a quick $10k on the watch they sold you several months prior when it’s on your wrist when you come in to buy earrings for your wife. Then you will get another desirable watch. They aren’t interested in only selling you desirable watches. If I ever flipped one of the watches they sold me, I wouldn’t expect to be offered another. I feel they really want to reward their good customers, as opposed to the car dealer that more often than not simply sells to the highest bidder. (I realize the ADs that are required by their agreement with Rolex to sell at list price essentially add ADM with additional purchase requirements, but it still doesn’t leave the same negative impression/experience as car dealer ADM from my perspective.)They are tough. You just need to get connected with watches as well as you are with Blackwings ;-)
This is pretty much the only watch I can afford in here.\ thread!
It doesn’t help if you’re over at Watchuseek. I read that a “responsible” watch person’s collection totals 50% or less of their gross annual income.I know a lot of people buy watches on the gray market and that's fine, but I like to get all the paperwork with it and be the first owner of the watch... I purchase thru an AD and it causes me to have to wait, and my wife is ok with that, lol
My problem is while waiting on the Rolex's I want I see other watches and I want to purchase them too.... My wife is always asking me when does it end, and I have no answer for her....
I not suggesting to spend 50% of your gross income every year on watches. I meant the total collection value at any given time is 50% of the current gross income. I actually had a bigger collection but have been selling watches I don’t have a strong connection with. I think an El Primero purchase is likely for this year.Well, I don't spend 50% of my annual income on watches so I guess I'm doing ok, and my small humble collect is not 50% of my annual income either...
This thread is such an awesome wang-measuring contest. I just wish my Apple watch measured up.
Sounds like your stroke is much longer than mine.Different strokes.
The main difference between a nice mechanical watch and an Apple Watch is that in 2 years one will be in a landfill and the other will be on a wrist and maintain its value.
No different than someone buying a larger house than they need. Or a Blackwing instead of a base CT4/5, or a Nissan Versa.Sounds like your stroke is much longer than mine.