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Phoenix AZ Is Revving Up With More Blackwing Owners

blackeneth

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2025 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing
I took delivery of a 2025 CT5-V Blackwing (86-223, Deep Space Metallic) a couple of weeks ago in Phoenix, AZ. The car was built the 2nd week of December 2024. I had originally ordered a 2024 model, but got rolled over to 2025 -- which I didn't mind, as I like the new dash layout of the 2025 (I had been thinking, "They should just combine those two screens into one ..." Well, they did). Total wait from initial order to delivery was 15 months.

Why buy the CT5-V Blackwing? Well, I started driving in 1981 with a 3-speed manual transmission Ford Fiesta. Basically, if I wanted to drive, I was learning to use a stick shift. Then I got a manual transmission (4 speed, I think) Pontiac Sunbird after graduating college because it was cheap. When it was getting close to replace that, I said to myself, "Well, I should start saving up to buy a new car." Then something insidious happened. I started thinking, "Why wait, you can finance it . . . ". So I did. I ordered a 6-speed manual transmission 1996 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am. Prior to that, there had always been a lot of competition between the Ford Mustang, with the 5.0 liter engine, and the Trans Am as to which was the "fastest car" -- with the Mustang usually edging out the Trans Am. GM decided to end the competition in 1996 by dropping the Corvette 5.7 liter LT1 engine (285 hp, 325 lb-ft of torque at 2400 rpm) into the Trans Am. Game over. That was a fun car.

Apparently, the car worked, as I got married in 1998. I sold the Trans Am in 2003 and went through a series of family cars with automatic transmissions after that (as my wife can't drive a stick shift). The last of which was a 2014 Ford Fusion (a brilliant sedan, Ford perfected it before they killed it). But the kids grow up, and now they each have their own car, so I don't need to drive them anymore. My wife also doesn't really need to ever borrow my car, as we have 4 others she could potentially drive. So I got to thinking, I could buy the car I want.

What is the car I want? I had two primary criteria: 1) V8 engine, 2) manual transmission. I had always aspired to own a Corvette. I liked the C7 stingray design. The C8 design, though, I don't like as well and . . . it doesn't have a manual transmission available. I was also thinking the suspension could we quite stiff and not especially pleasant to drive around town. A few years ago, I had done some research on V8 cars with manual transmission (anticipating the day I could buy one) and remembered the Cadillac CT6-V fit the requirements. So I looked up to see if they still made those. Turns out, they didn't. But they did make a new model, the CT5-V Blackwing, with a manual transmission, and monstrous 6.2 liter V8 with 668 hp and 635 ft lb of torque (which, observant readers may note, is over twice that of my old 1996 Trans Am). Plus it has a supercharger? That's been a dream ever since I saw The Road Warrior movie (Mel Gibson drove a modified Ford Falcon, with a Weiand 6-71 supercharger). It's a GM small block. I grew up in the Detroit area (Bloomfield Hills, for those who know the area) and being American made is a bonus, and I've always tended to like GM cars. I had never associated Cadillac with performance cars, but it appears Cadillac has claimed the performance car segment for GM that was lost when Pontiac was unfortunately lost. Also, the thought of a more luxurious interior and a smooth ride appealed to me. The price is kind of eye watering, but one of the mitigating factors of getting old is that you also get wealthier. Also, the wife had gotten an Audi Q7 a year earlier, so she could hardly complain about the price (she did complain, upon seeing a window sticker for one, "We're not getting this car, it has terrible mileage!" My response: "You don't buy this car for the mileage." She later countered with, "Why not get a Tesla, it's faster." My response: "I have no interest in an electric car. Your better counteroffer is a Corvette.").

So here I am in Phoenix with a 2025 CT5-V Blackwing. Phoenix is good country for a Blackwing -- smooth roads and doesn't rain much (being located in the desert, after all). Traffic enforcement is way down because Phoenix can't afford it. For those who know the Phoenix area, I'm in Arcadia. My wife still can't drive a stick shift. None of my kids can drive a stick shift either. It's a real shame they can't drive my car, a real shame I tell you. Although I'm retired now, so I don't actually drive that much. Break-in of the engine is like a form of torture. I need to find reasons to drive just to get through the break-in period.

My son and I are likely to take a road trip to Nevada in May, so that will let me have some fun with it. I found out last year that I don't really mind long drives, as I had to drive one of my daughters from Phoenix to Golden, CO -- a 14 hour drive. Didn't really mind it, although the last 2 hours are the worst ("we should be there by now ..."). Will drive to Las Vegas, then to Tonopah via the Extraterrestrial Highway, then back via Hwy 95 to Las Vegas, then back to Phoenix.

My dealer received in two other CT5-V Blackwings (one red, one black) at the same time mine came in. So two other fortunate people have also started driving Blackwings in the Phoenix area.

Starting up the Blackwing sounds like freedom, a sound of pure excess and technological superiority. A sound of defiance against those who say it can't be done, you can't accelerate faster, you can't go that fast, you need to have reasonable expectations. The Blackwing refutes the decline of the West, giving a big middle finger to those who say be reasonable, be fair, don't use so many resources. We can, we will, and we have mastered it. For those about to Blackwing, I salute you.
 
Nice write up blackeneth - welcome to the forum. My first car was a MT 1981 RWD Toyota Starlet that I had many great adventures with and kept for 25+ years even after buying and owning some other cars. Drove it cross country twice and in the late 1980s recovered it from salvage after 3 accidents in 2 months (none my fault) where I ultimately collected more than I originally paid for the car) Our nanny for our eldest even drove it awhile before i finally gave it away to charity.

I agree with you on the Ford Fusion - very nicely executed car....had several as rentals and always enjoyed them. Aside from the Mustang I don't think Ford makes any actual cars these days.

You did good with the 5 V BW - you will enjoy it. Shame no one else in the family drives MT....their loss. Don't forget - if you bought it new - you have a 2 day driving school at Spring Mountain near Las Vegas that you must attend. Its sometimes difficult to schedule and you only have a year from purchase to do so 0 but can't recommend highly enough. There is a thread on the forum "Spring Mountain Impressions" or some such you may want to peruse.

So yeah don't be a stranger and keep us updated on your BW adventures!
 
I bought my daughter a used 2014 Ford Fusion with about 20k miles in 2016. Just about the worst car I ever owned. It had engine problems continually the whole time she had it. White smoke coming out of the tailpipe and multiple lies from Ford on what the problem was and what they were doing to fix it. They told me it was going to be a total engine replacement. I came back to pick it up. Oh, we just replaced a few parts, it wasn't the engine. A few days later the same damn problem came up. They never diagnosed the problem correctly. She had loaners and rental cars for months while she owned it. It was terribly unreliable and caused her nothing but problems. We kept it for less than 2.5 years and we couldn't have been happier to get rid of that piece of junk.
 
Well ernsteeng you certainly have had more experience with the Fusion than I have had. I always enjoyed them as rentals and thought that Ford finally approached the Japanese in making a nice driving smaller car. I also knew someone who owned and liked the car. Bit your experience certainly speaks for itself. Luckily I've never had a car like that - though my wife would categorize our (often broke) Audi as such (and while she was right I loved that car....but not without trepidation).

Probably my worst rental experience (driving dynamics wise) was a 2nd gen Toyota Prius. I described it at the time as driving a waterbed on wheels...
 
I drove cross country and stopped in Arizona on my way to Vegas and California. My cousin lives in Gilbert, AZ. We stayed over in Chandler,AZ and I thought the place was beautiful. Everything there seems to be under 20 years old. I just could not take all that heat !
 
Congrats on the new ride. I'm in the west valley.
 
Hi everyone,

Long time corvette guy just converted :). Ironically, enough last year I ordered a new CT 5BW when I lived in Florida. I ended up canceling it because the dealerwas screwing around.

Since then, I moved to Jackson, Tennessee. I went into the local Chevy/Cadillac dealer to look at a new C8 they had in stock. Lo and behold, they had a fairly heavily optioned 2025 black wing on the floor. I was shocked. This beauty has carbon one and two packages as well as the carbon ceramic brakes. Best part I picked it up for 3K under MSRP.
Being newer to Cadillac , I’m not sure what the market looks like right now, but I considered it a deal for me. I snagged it up.

Unfortunately, I had to trade in my Rubicon 392 anniversary edition cause I’m not made of money, but I’m super happy I did. Of course, a few days after I traded it in and got my new BW, we got an ice/ snow storm. So that sucked….

Today’s makes my 8th day as an owner with a whopping 145 miles on the odometer. All but 12 of those are mine :). The car is gorgeous and that 33 inch screen is really something else. What an amazing vehicle.
 
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If you got a fully loaded 5BW at less than MSRP, you scored a big victory ! Congrats ! I could just never own a black car. Too much effort to keep them looking immaculate.
Thanks. it wasn’t fully loaded no precision pkg etc. msrp was 130.5. I got it for 126.9. Funny you say that about the color. After two days, I’ve started contacting companies for a color change. PPF application.
 

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