2024 price increase(Both CT4 and CT5)

savethemanual · May 23, 2023

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2023/05/2024-cadillac-ct4-pricing-uncovered/

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2023/05/2024-cadillac-ct5-pricing-uncovered/

tldr- both blackwings see a price increase. 1000 for ct4, 2500 for ct5.

NewCaddy · May 23, 2023

Inflation is a bitch

raptor5244 · May 23, 2023

The MSRP keeps rising meanwhile the discounts are rising faster.

almazing · May 23, 2023

Not as bad as I thought it would, but that's still $1000 and $2500 that you get nothing for.

Carguyshu · May 23, 2023

raptor5244 said:
The MSRP keeps rising meanwhile the discounts are rising faster.

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Not on the 5 though

668LT4 · May 23, 2023

Carguyshu said:
Not on the 5 though

Absolutely agree. The 3 examples above all have one thing in common.

I'm rather thrilled to have a 2022 BW5. MSRP is now up 10k or so. And the semi-aniline seats, can't remember how much more they are now but they are my favorite feature aside from the LT4/Tremec combo.

strohw · May 23, 2023

668LT4 said:
And the semi-aniline seats, can't remember how much more they are now but they are my favorite feature aside from the LT4/Tremec combo.

They were $6090 2 years ago and now they're $8090. They now charge more than Porsche does for their carbon buckets which are $5900.

savethemanual · May 23, 2023

raptor5244 said:
The MSRP keeps rising meanwhile the discounts are rising faster.

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Those cars are bad values to start off with. At those prices you’re honestly better off with a m3. Also I can bet these are autos.

raptor5244 · May 23, 2023

savethemanual said:
Those cars are bad values to start off with. At those prices you’re honestly better off with a m3. Also I can bet these are autos.

Yep, those listings are autos but I do see a one local dealer advertising $5k off ($4k if you add back in the dealer fee) on a manual which surprised me since there are not many available.

668LT4 · May 23, 2023

strohw said:
They were $6090 2 years ago and now they're $8090. They now charge more than Porsche does for their carbon buckets which are $5900.

Thank you. They really are fabulous and the leather is great, IMO. $8090 is steep. Maybe the carbon back delete option will enable people to get the great leather and save some $ compared to the full cost.

Exia · May 24, 2023

strohw said:
They were $6090 2 years ago and now they're $8090. They now charge more than Porsche does for their carbon buckets which are $5900.

Porsche's are actual Carbon buckets, Cadillac's are just the mid tier seat with carbon backs and are not a true carbon bucket seat like the Porsche. They also come with heated, ventilated, massaging and power adjustments and Porsche doesn't. Features cost money.

BMW's carbon bucket seat would be a good comparison to Porsche's. Cadillac just has a carbon trimmed luxury seat so you pay the price for the comfort and the carbon.

Neveready · May 24, 2023

Those Porsche carbon buckets are not vented nor heated so let's get real about what you really plan to do with this car.

Personally, if I was to solely track the car neither the carbon buckets from any manufacturer would compare to a custom molded seat to fit your exact body type.

As far as the price increases go from last year, I think most of us were shocked by the increase since they didn't change anything other than colors. I don't think it will be as high and increase but I suspect it will be more than $2k on a 5BW.

565565 · May 24, 2023

raptor5244 said:
The MSRP keeps rising meanwhile the discounts are rising faster.

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GM needs to skew more production to the manual and stop raising prices on the 4. Otherwise we will see fire sales like we saw on the z28 and Chevy SS.

No one can make a great car and then make it not sell like GM can.

white98ls · May 24, 2023

Exia said:
Porsche's are actual Carbon buckets, Cadillac's are just the mid tier seat with carbon backs and are not a true carbon bucket seat like the Porsche. They also come with heated, ventilated, massaging and power adjustments and Porsche doesn't. Features cost money.

That argument is moot though since I believe even the base 5BW seats have heat/vent/massage/power. The $8,090 is on top of that base seat.

strohw · May 24, 2023

Exia said:
Porsche's are actual Carbon buckets, Cadillac's are just the mid tier seat with carbon backs and are not a true carbon bucket seat like the Porsche. They also come with heated, ventilated, massaging and power adjustments and Porsche doesn't. Features cost money.

BMW's carbon bucket seat would be a good comparison to Porsche's. Cadillac just has a carbon trimmed luxury seat so you pay the price for the comfort and the carbon.

I understand they're not full carbon seats, they're not even buckets like the BMW and Porsche. My main point was that Porsche charges $5900 for a full upgraded carbon bucket package. BMW charges you $4500 to upgrade to carbon buckets. GM is charging $5200 to upgrade the leather and seat back on an existing seat. I use Porsche as a reference because they over charge out the ass for anything they can and GM is charging almost what they want for full carbon buckets just to change materials out on a seat.

raptor5244 · May 24, 2023

565565 said:
GM needs to skew more production to the manual and stop raising prices on the 4. Otherwise we will see fire sales like we saw on the z28 and Chevy SS.

No one can make a great car and then make it not sell like GM can.

Yep, and the Camaro, which is now sunsetting in January.

In fact, I wonder if BW sales will pick up a bit when folks can't get their hands on a new Camaro next year. I assume most will probably flock to the new Mustang or possibly a C8 Stingray but the 4BW is pretty close to the 2SS 1LE price point if you keep the options down. I think the V6 will keep most of those buyers looking elsewhere though.

GT325 · May 24, 2023

strohw said:
I understand they're not full carbon seats, they're not even buckets like the BMW and Porsche. My main point was that Porsche charges $5900 for a full upgraded carbon bucket package. BMW charges you $4500 to upgrade to carbon buckets. GM is charging $5200 to upgrade the leather and seat back on an existing seat. I use Porsche as a reference because they over charge out the ass for anything they can and GM is charging almost what they want for full carbon buckets just to change materials out on a seat.

Try changing the leather on those “cheap” Porsche buckets. PAG will ding you 9,000 bucks, please don’t ask me how I know.