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Ehh. If you bought one to flip it? Well, here we are. Longer term, I'd guess that like the 20% discount pricing on the SS sedans, used pricing will normalize once production ends.

That was painful. Watching the driving video makes me really dislike him personally. (Motions vaguely at the center stack) "All kinds of ...technology controls" "Driving a 2023 car and shifting it all the time is crazy- -this is an auto so you can hold your significant other's hand."...

I try not to spend too much time on this site, I always seem to leave furious about GM's lack of interest in keeping me as a customer, but this thread is so awesome- Flippers are one of the lowest forms of life on the planet, and the market giving them a rug pull on actual real things that exist...

Unless you soaked up a perfectly usable allocation and ordered a sissy stick you're now dropping on the open market- Then those of us who's orders have been ignored by GM for over 18 months would like to let you know that you've ruined my life. This thread makes me sad. Locking cars away like...

So, I jumped back on here to see if there was any info on converting my now over 1 year old order into a MY23 order and I learn that they've cancelled my paint color. Awesome.

I already have a dealer sitting on my money, and since GM's accepted orders run through April (with very little movement in the early order numbers for quite some time...) that leaves 2 months or so of possible production adds. I don't know what percentage of total orders out there you're...

Hey, I trusted @Mirza Grebovic when he said, "don't worry, you guys will get cars" and that doesn't look likely to happen- what do you know that he doesn't?!? Seems like a better than 50% chance of spending another year getting tugged along then slapped in the face, and I've never been much for...

This article is stupid. C&D specifically called out the driver feedback on the BW4 as best of breed, and specifically dinged the 5 for dead brake pedal response. In fact, the way I read the original material they only included the crash because it hit their confidence and they felt they hadn't...

For my 5 BW : Ordered 1100 04/05/21 : Still 1100 06/01/21 : Still 1100 10/01/21 : Still 1100 12/30/21 : Still 1100 02/01/22 Projected: : Still 1100 04/05/22 (1 year) : Still 1100 05/01/22 : Order cancelled by GM 05/05/22 : ~395 days The question becomes, do I want to put in an order for a '23...

If it ended in a car instead of 15 months at 1100 followed by having your order cancelled. I suspect my wait will not be worth it. :hb

Nevada has a 'classic rod' license plate option and as I see more of them, I feel like we should get a vote on what that label applies to. Every November the ballot in NV should go: -President -Senator -Representative -Do you think a rusted out 87 Camry qualifies as a 'classic'? -Other probably...

The democratization of media really is a mixed bag. I mean, why does this guy exist? Sure, it's been great to see tons of stuff I never would have with the usual curation by networks and studios. But the flip side is really painful. I mean, for every Slo Mo Guys, you inevitably get a Doug...

I think what is meant by the phrase "more money than sense" is that anything is collectable if you're dumb enough, right? (Or rich enough to overcome your level of intelligence)

It's an old saying. It was a different time...

A couple of thoughts. Automotive leather is typically sanded significantly to ensure consistent thickness and texture, backed with something to ensure it retains its shape, and finally coated with urethane to keep it UV stable and prevent the finish from wearing off given the wide environmental...

Well, that is what McDoucherson stated as his goal, but I think we're a long way off from that technically, as well as the issue of there being no easy path to retroactive conversion for the cars already on the road. Mostly, I object to the sheer laziness of their methods and reasoning. This is...

I think you mean last couple months. All with at least one death that was not the dipstick behind the wheel. I'd really like to see us do some analysis of the drivers to figure out what if anything could be done to identify the warning signs of these behaviors that could be used to shape policy...

I suppose I should clarify- while I don't need a sedan, I do need at least 3 seats from time to time and I suspect the McLaren F1 is still a tad outside my price range. ;)